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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 4:11AM #1
Shamsiel
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So, has lifelink in ever been explained properly?

I mean, it's easy to see why has it, but , as much as I like to villainise it, doesn't strike me as very vampiric.

The KnightofSerra dude appearently thought it was "rewards" for slaughtering people, but then again he's not very smart.

BTW, why isn't it in ? is the colour of life, after all.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 7:06AM #2
TheMOTI
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, Batman!

but seriously it's a form of healing magic that draws on a creature's strength to aid its allies.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 7:41AM #3
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Aug 3, 2012 -- 7:06AM, TheMOTI wrote:

, Batman!

but seriously it's a form of healing magic that draws on a creature's strength to aid its allies.




That doesn't make much sense though. Lifelink feels because 1) it involves creatures, and 2) it can be flavored as predation. ( Kresh the Bloodbraided 's ability can too.) The second reason also feels very , such as vampires, and the inherent sadism of it.

Basically blame the people who made Legends. Spirit Link gave it an aura, even if it's kinda the antithesis of white, much like red vigilance .

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 8:05AM #4
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Aug 3, 2012 -- 7:41AM, bay_falconer wrote:

Aug 3, 2012 -- 7:06AM, TheMOTI wrote:

, Batman!

but seriously it's a form of healing magic that draws on a creature's strength to aid its allies.




That doesn't make much sense though. Lifelink feels because 1) it involves creatures, and 2) it can be flavored as predation. ( Kresh the Bloodbraided 's ability can too.) The second reason also feels very , such as vampires, and the inherent sadism of it.

Basically blame the people who made Legends. Spirit Link gave it an aura, even if it's kinda the antithesis of white, much like red vigilance .


Since every creature mechanic can be flavored in many different ways, pretty much any creature mechanic is green by that logic.

Spirit link is people in a group helping each other by killing people outside the group. That's pretty white, imo.

How does the black flavor work anyway? How does a planeswalker benefit from his summoned vampires? Does the vampire drain the blood and put it in a cup and give it to his master to drink? Similarly with predation.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 10:50AM #5
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Aug 3, 2012 -- 4:11AM, Shamsiel wrote:

BTW, why isn't it in ? is the colour of life, after all.




MaRo has said that they've thought about lifelink in green and have avoided it because green and white have a lot in common already.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 2:42PM #6
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Aug 3, 2012 -- 10:50AM, HairlessThoctar wrote:

Aug 3, 2012 -- 4:11AM, Shamsiel wrote:

BTW, why isn't it in ? is the colour of life, after all.




MaRo has said that they've thought about lifelink in green and have avoided it because green and white have a lot in common already.


Which doesn't explain why they haven't moved it from White to Green. It makes a lot more sense in Green than White, both flavorfully and mechanically.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 3:10PM #7
Shamsiel
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I guess the implication is that , being the colour of growth and fertility, isn't okay with parasitism. In fact, symbiosis vs parasitism is the reason why hates .

falls under the same problem, but unlike , it isn't associated with life. is in fact sometimes associated with death, as in Kamigawa and New Phyrexia.

Therefore, can't really produce life. Most healing spells are in fact damage prevention spells, so they focus more on preventing harm from existing on the first place than to regenerate the already existing wounds.

Therefore, to actually produce life, might be forced to be parasitic. And, since lifelink is supposedly flavoured as "rewards" from slaughtering people, is fine with being a vampire.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 7:01PM #8
RavenoftheBlack
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Personally, I've never really gotten the flavor of lifelink. It's like TheMOTI said, why does the controller gain life? I completely get and agree with the flavor of older vampires, like Sengir Vampire   or Baron Sengir . It makes sense that they can steal life to make themselves stronger. How, flavorfully speaking, does a creature with lifelink transport that life energy to it's controller, and to TheMOTI's point, in the case of vampires, why would they?

I'm sure we could come up with reasons, it just seems odd to me.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 10:26PM #9
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 03, 2012 - 10:49PM #10
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Aug 3, 2012 -- 2:42PM, chronego wrote:

Aug 3, 2012 -- 10:50AM, HairlessThoctar wrote:

Aug 3, 2012 -- 4:11AM, Shamsiel wrote:

BTW, why isn't it in ? is the colour of life, after all.




MaRo has said that they've thought about lifelink in green and have avoided it because green and white have a lot in common already.


Which doesn't explain why they haven't moved it from White to Green. It makes a lot more sense in Green than White, both flavorfully and mechanically.



Probably because something like that takes time to integrate, and besides, you have 15+ years' worth of white cards with some variation of lifelink. Even if you were to have any new lifelink cards start in Green, there'll always be past sets and new players looking back and thinking, "What makes this life-giving wurm any different from that soul-attached hawk?"



As for me, when lifelink is in black, ala Vampiric Link , I can totally understand. But when some shiny staff gets waved around or some completely unexplained four-eyed snake thingy comes around, I'm naturally a little confused. I usually shy away from these effects when making my decks, because, well... I'm a Vorthos, darn it! I need more than mechanics and fancy images to make a deck about me.

So, yeah. I'm as lost as any of you, and would love some explanation - maybe about how these spells link your spirits or some such, or that they allow you to drain the ambient life energy that's released when your opponent is injured or something...

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