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10 months ago  ::  Aug 15, 2012 - 11:57AM #101
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Friend piloted a WU deck using Geist and nearly Day 2'd GP ATL at the beginning of July. St Traft is exactly the kind of 3 drop you want in legacy.


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10 months ago  ::  Aug 15, 2012 - 7:47PM #102
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Aug 15, 2012 -- 11:30AM, Jman22 wrote:

Aug 15, 2012 -- 7:01AM, Georg51 wrote:

Aug 15, 2012 -- 4:22AM, Jman22 wrote:

As for Delver being expensive, Geist is about 20 dollars and the most expensive card in the deck, even though it probably won't see play outside of UW tempo cards. I don't like the Talrand builds really.



Snapcaster costs the same as Geist and arguably has more value, since people will be running 4 of them compared to 2-3 Geists.




Dunno where you are getting your Geists. I've been getting Snapcasters for 15 solid and Geists for 15-20 depending on the person.




Snaps go for up to twenty around here, so yah about the same in cost, and since Snappys can be used in more decks, and more of them, they are a higher value in my opinion.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 16, 2012 - 7:01AM #103
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Aug 15, 2012 -- 7:47PM, Georg51 wrote:



Snaps go for up to twenty around here, so yah about the same in cost, and since Snappys can be used in more decks, and more of them, they are a higher value in my opinion.





I'm not going to disagree that Snap has more applications, but Geist has far higher power. Geist has been underused in my opinion, simply because of Delver decks pushing down a lot of other possibilites.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 16, 2012 - 7:48AM #104
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Aug 15, 2012 -- 11:30AM, Jman22 wrote:

Aug 15, 2012 -- 7:01AM, Georg51 wrote:

Aug 15, 2012 -- 4:22AM, Jman22 wrote:

As for Delver being expensive, Geist is about 20 dollars and the most expensive card in the deck, even though it probably won't see play outside of UW tempo cards. I don't like the Talrand builds really.



Snapcaster costs the same as Geist and arguably has more value, since people will be running 4 of them compared to 2-3 Geists.




Dunno where you are getting your Geists. I've been getting Snapcasters for 15 solid and Geists for 15-20 depending on the person.


Aug 15, 2012 -- 8:12AM, Burning_Forest wrote:

both geist and snap are run in successful UW/x tempo decks in modern as well. and of course, snap has retaining value for legacy and probably vintage too.



 Think Geist has Legacy potential also.



You can't attack into Goyf successfully with Geist, making it less attractive then something like Lingering Souls. However, Geist is quite the powerful dude if unblocked, even in Legacy. However, the decks you'd be putting it in run Lingering Souls instead. It just has more value.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 16, 2012 - 8:48AM #105
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if you had a bunch of swords, paths, or whatever and countermagic clearing the board, snap rebuys, then geist would end games quickly.  its still "fair" magic, but it would make quick work.  also important if you were keeping it stricly UW..... but it begs the question is this really the best you can do in UW?  (the answer is no, its jace)
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 16, 2012 - 7:03PM #106
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I'm not saying Geist is the next Goyf, but I think he would be solid enough in the right deck.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 20, 2012 - 2:48AM #107
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Geist is god in legacy, since he beats Jace in a straight up fight since he's hexproof. He's a reliable and easy to protect threat. Sure, he's not amazing against Goyf, but that Goyf is usually turning sideways and racing anyway. The UW deck runs Geist, the Esper deck does not, simples.
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