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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2012 - 11:25PM #1
Exodus2220
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        If you use a card that takes control of a monster for a turn, what happens to the equipment attached to it? Does it travel with the monster, does it get destroyed?
Does it dissapear for you but then go back to the opponents side with it?
What about equipment?
If that monster is destroyed while on my side, the opponent won't get it back, right?

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2012 - 11:33PM #2
pitiex
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Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:25PM, Exodus2220 wrote:

        If you use a card that takes control of a monster for a turn, what happens to the equipment attached to it? Does it travel with the monster, does it get destroyed?
Does it dissapear for you but then go back to the opponents side with it?
What about equipment?
If that monster is destroyed while on my side, the opponent won't get it back, right?

Thank you so much 


both equipment and auras still attached to it. However, your opponent still control them not you. You only control the creature.

when the creature is destroyed (it will go into your opponent's graveyard), both equipment and auras will unattached. however, due to SBA check, auras will go into graveyard while equipment still on the battlefield unattached.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2012 - 11:35PM #3
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When you use a card like Act of Aggression , you'll gain control of the creature only.  The equipment will remain attached to the creature, but depending on what the equipment does it may either benefit you or your opponent, also you won't be able to use the equip ability.  If the creature dies before the end of turn the equipment will be left on the battlefield unattached, the opponent still controls it though so it's still their equipment.  Since the creature is destroyed the opponent wouldn't get it back, it would just be put into it's owners graveyard.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2012 - 11:37PM #4
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Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:33PM, pitiex wrote:

Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:25PM, Exodus2220 wrote:

        If you use a card that takes control of a monster for a turn, what happens to the equipment attached to it? Does it travel with the monster, does it get destroyed?
Does it dissapear for you but then go back to the opponents side with it?
What about equipment?
If that monster is destroyed while on my side, the opponent won't get it back, right?

Thank you so much 


both equipment and auras still attached to it. However, your opponent still control them not you. You only control the creature.

when the creature is destroyed (it will go into your opponent's graveyard), both equipment and auras will unattached. however, due to SBA check, auras will go into graveyard while equipment still on the battlefield unattached.


Does this mean bonuses on the creature are still in effect when I have it? Or will the creature turn to normal when it's on my side?

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2012 - 11:40PM #5
Segoth
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Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:37PM, Exodus2220 wrote:

Does this mean bonuses on the creature are still in effect when I have it? Or will the creature turn to normal when it's on my side?




For this you really need to give an example for me to be able to give a solid answer.  As I stated, depending on what the equipment does will determine who or what gets what effect.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2012 - 11:46PM #6
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Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:40PM, Segoth wrote:

Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:37PM, Exodus2220 wrote:

Does this mean bonuses on the creature are still in effect when I have it? Or will the creature turn to normal when it's on my side?




For this you really need to give an example for me to be able to give a solid answer.  As I stated, depending on what the equipment does will determine who or what gets what effect.


for example, perhaps a cathedral sanctifier with a bonds of faith? If I took control of that would I hit for 3/3 or just 1/1?

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2012 - 11:55PM #7
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Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:46PM, Exodus2220 wrote:

for example, perhaps a cathedral sanctifier with a bonds of faith? If I took control of that would I hit for 3/3 or just 1/1?




To Autocard: [c]Bonds of Faith[/c] = Bonds of Faith
Cathedral Sanctifier   

It would remain a 3/3.  Power and toughness boosts from equipment and aura's apply to the creature in question.   So if you take the creature the bonus it's receiving will remain. 

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 30, 2012 - 12:24AM #8
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Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:55PM, Segoth wrote:

Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:46PM, Exodus2220 wrote:

for example, perhaps a cathedral sanctifier with a bonds of faith? If I took control of that would I hit for 3/3 or just 1/1?




To Autocard: [c]Bonds of Faith[/c] = Bonds of Faith
Cathedral Sanctifier   

It would remain a 3/3.  Power and toughness boosts from equipment and aura's apply to the creature in question.   So if you take the creature the bonus it's receiving will remain. 


If I were to steal the creature permanantly, with something like Soul Seizer, would i get to keep all the artifacts equiped to it? Even after it died?

Sorry about being so persistant and asking so many questions, this has been bothering me for a while.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 30, 2012 - 12:41AM #9
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Jul 30, 2012 -- 12:24AM, Exodus2220 wrote:

Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:55PM, Segoth wrote:

Jul 29, 2012 -- 11:46PM, Exodus2220 wrote:

for example, perhaps a cathedral sanctifier with a bonds of faith? If I took control of that would I hit for 3/3 or just 1/1?




To Autocard: [c]Bonds of Faith[/c] = Bonds of Faith
Cathedral Sanctifier   

It would remain a 3/3.  Power and toughness boosts from equipment and aura's apply to the creature in question.   So if you take the creature the bonus it's receiving will remain. 


If I were to steal the creature permanantly, with something like Soul Seizer, would i get to keep all the artifacts equiped to it? Even after it died?

Sorry about being so persistant and asking so many questions, this has been bothering me for a while.



When you steal a creature you don't get control of the permanents attached to it.

Those will stay attached to it (most of the time, there are exceptions) and will keep the bonuses or not, on your side.

If you steal a creature equipped with Argentum Armor and attack with it, your opponent will decide of a permanent to destroy, because he still controls the armor.

If the creature is enchanted with an aura that may enchant only a "creature you control", it will fall off, because the controller ofthe aura doesn't control the enchanted creature, etc...

But the control of permanents attached to a creature you "stole" won't switch to you.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 30, 2012 - 12:42AM #10
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You only gain control of the creature. You do not gain control of any auras or equipment attached to the creature. Their previous controller will remain. While the equipment will remain attached to the creature for the time being, on your opponent's next turn, they will be able to play the equip ability and move it back to a creature they control. If the creature dies with their equipment still attached, then it will remain on the battlefield and they will still have control of the equipment.
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