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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 12:21PM #1
mUrielw
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Let's have a portraiture contest! Here's how it works:

1) Your subjects: each of the five colors - or each arc, wedge, or dyad, or some set of relationships among such things, or the like. (Do you have to do a complete cycle? Obviously not, but my prior opinion is that each portrait will say the most when it exists in context. Of course, feel free to point to draw a one-off or two and claim they complete or replace members of a collection someone else already posted, since that serves the same function.) Enter as many times as you like.

2) Your medium: MS Paint or equivalent; in blacks, whites, and greys.

3) Your constraints: strictly no representation allowed. No skulls or angels or angel skulls; no text; the only content you're allowed is form. Obviously representationality is a spectrum, but when in doubt, consider if you can make it more abstract; and if you can't, just go with it - it's not like you have anything to lose anyway.

4) Your title: "Untitled." Or more precisely: name each series "Untititled #___," where "___" is some number (duh,) and append letters mechanically (a, b, c...) to the specific title of each item (their internal order chosen randomly.) So I might offer up "Untitled #4," with #4a, #4b, #4c, #4d, and #4e. The purpose of all this is so we can refer to portraits without you telling us who their subjects are, so don't (tell us who their subjects are.)

5) Your criteria: elegance, clarity (of referent) but also subtlety (in means of acheiving clarity), cleverness, inspiring insightful critical comments, the usual. (As you might have guessed, you will not be judged on technical ability.)

6) Your judges: everybody. Just analyze the hell out of everything other people post (that's interesting enough to inspire that.) Coming up with a list of formal winners beyond that is pointless.

7) Your prize: uh, the fun of participating, obviously. 

If you want to break the letter of the rules while adhering to the spirit by submitting a five-movement piano piece or whatever, obviously go for it. I look forward to seeing what we come up with! ^_^
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 12:53PM #2
Dr_Demento
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Hmm, I feel like this first one I made is very representational, even though it isn't really intended to. It also has some technical issues, but you told me to work in paint. Jerk. (I am much better in PowerPoint)

Untitled #8a Show

Untitled #8a

Edit: The rest of the series

Untitled #8b Show

Untitled #8b

Untitled #8c Show

Untitled #8c

Untitled #8d Show

Untitled #8d

Untitled #8e Show

Untitled #8e


Note, this isn't the order I necessarily created them in (except Untitled #8a was the first). 
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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

WHAT NOW!

(yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)


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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 1:40PM #3
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Untitled #13a Show


Untitled #13b Show


Untitled #13c Show


Untitled #13d Show
 
This has a mk2 Version:
 


Untitled #13e Show

This has a mk2 Version:
 


b and e were the hardest for me, oddly
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THE COALITION WAR GAME
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Round 1: (4-1-2, 1 kill)
Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1) [current round]

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 1:44PM #4
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So, if I understand it correctly, we need to make some kind of abstract representation of the colors in paint?
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May 8, 2013 -- 4:33PM, Yxoque wrote:



Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.



oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 1:52PM #5
Dr_Demento
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Untitled #8e is better than Untitled #13d!

Slightly more seriously, I feel as though Untitled #13e and Untitled #13c both edge into representational territory.

Also, Untitled #13b, while by process of elimination I think I know what color it represents, I'm not sure if I understand the design choices. The fractionalized "head" I think I can understand, but I don't think I understand the tail. Anyone else's thoughts?
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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

WHAT NOW!

(yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)


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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 2:58PM #6
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Untitled #22a Show


Untitled #22b Show


Untitled #22c Show


Untitled #22d Show


Untitled #22e Show



I may have gotten into representational territory. I'm not an artist, so sue me. Untitled #22c is the one I'm least happy with, but we'll see if you guys can tell which is which.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 3:24PM #7
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I finally figured out my problem with b.  I've edited it.
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THE COALITION WAR GAME
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Round 1: (4-1-2, 1 kill)
Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1) [current round]

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 3:30PM #8
mUrielw
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PowerPoint is a perfectly fine equivalent to MS Paint as far as I'm concerned. So is pretty much anything you might use: the main point of bringing up MS Paint was to emphasize that these don't need to look good along any traditional metric.

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, yes? The one I find least satisfactory here is /a, because it does feel representational in the "wrong" way - the easiest reading is that the Pythagorean Theorem is standing in, as a Famous Theorem, for science and logic (as well as serving as a pun on "rational.") A more distant reading that I like is that for an equivalent raw substance (a given quantity of area) is capable of assuming many different forms. looks at a square and sees two smaller squares that its substance could be shaped into.

I really like how can be read as hierarchical or egalitarian or both. Mad props for capturing its ambiguity there so elegantly.

Intuitively I feel confident about and here, but intellectually I could see them switched as well.


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My intuition tells me , although intellectually I like better. Both b and e plausibly express 's pattern of replication and growth, and e can be read as a planner's map of choices untaken and possibilities considered and dismissed, extending out into the future. I find it far from odd that they were the toughest two, since they read the most ambigously!

I love the use of the repeating motif, though I feel it's weakened considerably by not being extended throughout the cycle. 13c feels too representational, but I really like the symmetry with 13a, as well as the basic idea of what you're doing with it. My instinct would be to have the cracked-but-remaining half surrounded with the pieces of the destroyed half. I'm unsure whether 13a is better with a divisor at all - though interestingly this would make it quite similar to 8b, which I read as , so maybe Aquinas was right and needs a degree of relationality along with its oneness - and whether 13b is employing the motif in the same language as 13a and 13c.

13d and 8e are both precisely what the first thing that came to mind for me on as well. I wonder if you sat down a thousand Magic players what percentage would do something fairly similar.


Jul 24, 2012 -- 1:39PM, phyrexian-hailstorm wrote:

lol is this actually a portraiture contest? can i get it broken down in laymans terms? sorry, thanks


Jul 24, 2012 -- 1:44PM, Yxoque wrote:

So, if I understand it correctly, we need to make some kind of abstract representation of the colors in paint?



Xyoque expressed the answer to this perfectly. Demento and Tevish (and, edit, Micorku) expressed it far more perfectly.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 3:46PM #9
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I've decided to redo 13d and 13e without removing the older versions.  here are the mk2

Untitled #13d, mk2 Show

Untitled #13e, mk2 Show
"Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice."
THE COALITION WAR GAME
-Phyrexian Praetor
Round 1: (4-1-2, 1 kill)
Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1) [current round]

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 3:53PM #10
mUrielw
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Some shots of my own soon enough, promise.

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Representational - or, perhaps more accurately, covertly textual - but what I really like here is the negative definition of 22a, if that is indeed . Every other color wants to do something with this little circular universal signifier, but manifests in just its bare being. This is a great example of how you can create a vocabulary through juxtaposition. 8b and 13a and 22a all mean completely different things because of their context and I think that's great. I don't even care that I can't discriminate between and because that's clearly not the point.

I'm not sure how 22d fits into this gestalt. I understand why it does, or perhaps rather doesn't, but the fact that it doesn't I feel undermines the effect you have going with 22a. It implies something significant about and but I can't make out what it is, and feel as though it's an accident. You could say that also escapes the model by embodying pure becoming without any being, at the opposite pole from , but that doesn't really come through (and so obviously would be represented by something that could contain a circle but doesn't, like an empty arrow say, that that's not it.) The chaotic shape could be a transformation of the circle itself but that doesn't really come through either, and I'm not sure what it would mean if it did.
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