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12 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 4:05PM #11
Dr_Demento
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#22c, do you think it is a house or an arrow? A house might indicate , but an upwards arrow might indicate growth for .

Do I need ot Sblock this?
 
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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

WHAT NOW!

(yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)


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12 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 4:22PM #12
mUrielw
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I've been sblocking to allow others to make their guesses before seeing mine, but I don't personally care whether others do.

Untitled #7:
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Only 100% satisfied with a and d, but we'll see.

Edit: updated 7e.
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 4:39PM #13
Dr_Demento
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I'm starting to see that red is the key towards understanding the these sets. First look towards what "breaks the mold", then you can understand what the mold is?

 

-White clearly defines right and wrong
-Blue understands this, but also changes this for interest and creating a more complex pattern, less rigid but still prefering clear lines.
-Black doesn't see simple morality, just shades of grey
-Green doesn't even consider that morality could exist.
-Red likes the color pink. Also, screw vertical lines

You also have 2 #7c

Edit: Updated for new #7e, I like it better

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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

WHAT NOW!

(yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)


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12 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 4:41PM #14
Shamsiel
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I decided to participate here.

Here's my five submissions:


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12 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 4:57PM #15
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Here's mine, but I'm calling them by my name instead of 'Untitled'--I think referring to them by the username of the poster rather than by number would make talking about them easier.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 4:57PM #16
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This is a really brilliant idea, Uriel. Absolutely fantastic. I kind of want to collect these in the Expanded Multiverse, actually...

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 5:18PM #17
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I'm going to redo mine - I'm not at all happy with most of them, and I need to give them some more thought and see what I come up with.
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 7:12PM #18
mUrielw
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Feel free to use Photoshop, totally.

Zamm, that probably makes more sense. My thinking was that giving them numbers encourages people to make multiple cycles, and also allows people to take a critical distance from their creation, which is always good, but really, any title will do, and pure numbers will probably become unweildly as time goes on.

I admit to not "getting" Shamsiel's.

Jul 24, 2012 -- 4:39PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

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I'm starting to see that red is the key towards understanding the these sets. First look towards what "breaks the mold", then you can understand what the mold is?

 

-White clearly defines right and wrong
-Blue understands this, but also changes this for interest and creating a more complex pattern, less rigid but still prefering clear lines.
-Black doesn't see simple morality, just shades of grey
-Green doesn't even consider that morality could exist.
-Red likes the color pink. Also, screw vertical lines

You also have 2 #7c


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Very close to authorial intent, which was , but your reading seems just as plausible.

My thinking with is that (an aspect of) it is somewhat parasitic (heh) on 's morality, in a sort of "evil be thou my good" sense, and so for the individual in question (within the circle) altruism and teamwork are forbidden and selfishness and parasitism are virtues. Leaving the rest of the picture as is (and as I did) reads as an emphasis on still preferring that the stupid sheeple keep on following 's dumb morality, and so a criticism of 's hypocrisy or unsustainability, but it might be equally accurate to shade everything outside grey (or perhaps better yet to make a .gif and erase everything outside the circle, although as a technical issues that's only visible if people see it behind multiple backgrounds.)

, like you said, sees everything as complex. Obviously the picture I had in mind for it is quite simple, except in the "grey" = "morally complex" trope on which I'm relying. Perhaps more importantly it's emphasizing 's tendency to suspend judgment, both in the sense that it thinks more information is needed and that it tends not to view things as good or bad in themselves, but good or bad dependent on context - without throwing out the concept of evaluation altogether. Maybe having a diversity of shades would be better.

With the idea isn't so much that doesn't see morality, as that it thinks everything is inherently good. I don't know if the sequence is better with it in its current position or first.

With 7e the idea isn't so much that is wacky! and doesn't follow the rules! (although it can be and doesn't) but that recognizes genuine dilemmas, moral and otherwise, in the sense of incommensurability. Should I sleep with Tom? Well, I'm incredibly attracted to Tom, but I love my husband and... One option isn't necessarily better than the other, but they sure are different. Either way you lose something and get something important, and if you're busy trying to figure out which one weighs more, then you're not paying attention to their unique emotional textures, which is the whole point of being alive. And of course these distinctions are orthogonal to those that concern , hence why I rotated it, but now that I'm thinking in terms of two choices maybe I should flip it back to where it was originally, idunno.

With respect to your broader comment on cracking these, it wasn't really my intention for any of these to "break the mold," but to express something within the language of the mold. How well I succeeded is of course another matter!


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I'm not at all confident in these, but my interpretations here are:

looks at the world and sees abstract categories.
looks at the world and sees action, which is something that gets you from Point A to Point B,  but getting from here to there isn't the point (heh) of the action. Journey, not destination.
looks at the world and sees a bunch of winners at the top and losers at the bottom. Sucks to be you, losers. (Perhaps a bit too representational, although the others are perfect on this score.)
looks at the world and sees a great cosmic contrast between good and evil where, if you zoom in on anything, you can see that battle being fought. The microscopic world of individual moral struggle looms as large in its mind as the cosmic struggle; in whether I sleep with Tom (to borrow the above example) as much profundity as Avacyn's duel with Griselbrand.
looks at the world and sees a bunch of self-replicating processes. Everything contains within itself the seed of itself, which blossoms forth according to its kind.
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 11:20PM #19
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To spice things up a bit, I'm going with allied color pairings.

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These are somewhat more representational in nature, something which I will probably endeavor to correct in the next run through. I really like how this pushes both color pie thinking and artistic thinking.
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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

WHAT NOW!

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2012 - 12:21AM #20
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Jul 24, 2012 -- 7:12PM, mUrielw wrote:

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I'm not at all confident in these, but my interpretations here are:

looks at the world and sees abstract categories.
looks at the world and sees action, which is something that gets you from Point A to Point B,  but getting from here to there isn't the point (heh) of the action. Journey, not destination.
looks at the world and sees a bunch of winners at the top and losers at the bottom. Sucks to be you, losers. (Perhaps a bit too representational, although the others are perfect on this score.)
looks at the world and sees a great cosmic contrast between good and evil where, if you zoom in on anything, you can see that battle being fought. The microscopic world of individual moral struggle looms as large in its mind as the cosmic struggle; in whether I sleep with Tom (to borrow the above example) as much profundity as Avacyn's duel with Griselbrand.
looks at the world and sees a bunch of self-replicating processes. Everything contains within itself the seed of itself, which blossoms forth according to its kind.


Definitely not anywhere in line with authorial intent. I'll try putting up some companion pieces tomorrow which should give you a better clue.

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