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11 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 2:52PM #1
WotC_Monty
Date Joined: Nov 5, 2003
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This thread is for discussion of this week's ReConstructed, which goes live Tuesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 9:24PM #2
Incoming_Wormhole
Date Joined: Aug 31, 2010
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This deck comes out to about $61 if you buy it in singles.

Half ($30) of that comes from the Isolated Chapels, which are about $8 apiece

Lingering Souls contribute about $8, as do the two Cathedrals of War.

Just some perspective.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 9:47PM #3
Fenix.
Date Joined: Jan 13, 2012
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I actually like this approach to budget deck building, even though I do not particularly like the WB exalted deck he worked on this week. But eh, it was exalted week.

The Back from the Brink / Misthollow Griffin deck is amazing, I gotta try that one out. Also, I think there was an error in Benjamin Wheeler's Storm deck, it currently has no way to cast those 2 Increasing Ambition s. Perhaps they were Increasing Vengeance ?

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Nov 27, 2012 -- 6:39AM, Mata_Hari wrote:

Nov 27, 2012 -- 12:26AM, BankaiMastery wrote:

Okay, here is the clincher. I've been waiting to say this.

The "cam girl" this was inspired by was just a girl from a social networking website, Stickam. Her name was TinyTerror and she was just a regular girl who was on her webcam, totally unrelated to any type of adult content.

I hope you all feel really smart now.

This is like someone coming into class with a bloody nose and everyone's like "Jeez what happened to you" and they're like "I ran into a wall" and everyone laughs at them for being an idiot but then at the end of the class they say "HAHA JUST KIDDING I PUNCHED MYSELF IN THE FACE!!!!!! TALK ABOUT OWNED HAHAHAHAHA"


Oct 25, 2012 -- 9:53PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.


Sorin walked into the chamber where his newly wed bride, Vampy, awaited. A beam of moonlight illuminated his brilliant silver hair as he strode with confidence towards the bed. His shirtless body showcased his powerful abdominal muscles and he was wearing jeans with holes in the knees.


Nov 24, 2012 -- 8:07PM, felisdomesticus wrote:

Nov 24, 2012 -- 7:19PM, CherylCheryl wrote:

I wish more girls play magic cards...


Have you considered assassinating Kevin?

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 10:15PM #4
.Blaze.
Date Joined: Jan 24, 2011
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My friend recently made a W/B exalted deck so seeing this has given me some good ideas to pass on to him. 

I personally think Sorin is really good in a nonbudget version since Lifelink is very good with Exalted and the -2 can make your exalted army one your more willing to just send at the opponent. 

As for th budget list, I like. Sure $60 might be a bit much for some people but more than half comes from the mana base and as you said picking up duel lands is just something you should do since you often get a lot of mileage out of them.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 12:45AM #5
iamsum1gr8
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I have been toying with a Seance / Misthollow Griffin control deck.

Seance is more efficent then back from the brink with the griffin, both in terms of casting cost and you don't have to pay to get the griffin out of the graveyard.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 1:13AM #6
Malzors
Date Joined: Jul 24, 2012
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personally, i think writing articles about budget deck building this way is better, can't immagine how difficult it actually is since every player has his/her own definition of a "budget deck" and access to cards, not to mention fact that this just encourages players to actually go that extra mile by doing some research and building your own deck.  I think you can learn a lot about Magic from deck building alone and ReConstructed is that extra bit of help players need to learn on how to tweak decks.  Thanks Gavin for the awesome column
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 2:14AM #7
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Jul 23, 2012 -- 9:24PM, Incoming_Wormhole wrote:

This deck comes out to about $61 if you buy it in singles.

Half ($30) of that comes from the Isolated Chapels, which are about $8 apiece

Lingering Souls contribute about $8, as do the two Cathedrals of War.

Just some perspective.



Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.


I liked this article, especially the fact he defined what "budget" meant to him in this context.

~ Tim 

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Reached DCI Rating 1800 on 28/10/11. :D
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Jan 5, 2013 -- 9:32PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jan 4, 2013 -- 5:20AM, LMTRK wrote:

That makes no sense to me.

If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed?

~ Tim   


Yup, just like you can have Birds of paradise in a mono green deck but not Noble Hierarch . YAY COLOR IDENTITY


Oct 26, 2012 -- 9:56PM, zammm wrote:

Oct 26, 2012 -- 12:24AM, Raeoran wrote:

Is algebra really that difficult?

Survey says yes.


Jul 7, 2011 -- 12:59AM, Novacat wrote:

Jul 7, 2011 -- 12:36AM, LMTRK wrote:

You want to make a milky drink. You squeeze a cow.


I love this description. Like the cows are sponges filled with milk. I can see it all Nick Parks claymation-style with the cow's eyes bugging out momentarily as a giant farmer squeezes it like a squeaky dog toy, and milk shoots out of it.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 3:55AM #8
Senyuno
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"I refuse to compromise on mana, and neither[sic] should you."

I have my obligatory refusal-- a budget deck can either somewhat consistently present powerful plays, or very consistently present weak plays. The former involves eschewing mana, and building more carefully with your deck's colors, but offers the pay-off of being able to win a game of MtG. The latter can't do that. It has the mana, that's not its problem. Its problem is that even when it goes off, even when it gets its "god hand", it still sucks enough to get beat.

You are so lucky to see a rare instance of getting both of these out of a budget deck, because if you do, and the deck gets noticed-- it won't be budget for long. Budget builders know this, and that's why most of the submissions you got to this article don't mess with said lands. They often can't be included, and aren't necessary to include (we all know if we want to increase consistency, we replace our Plains with IChapel

This time I'll provide examples. Just give my Innistrad and Dark Ascension event decks a try and tell me that they are functionless and void due to its manabase:


// Lands

2 [DKA] Evolving Wilds
1 [ISD] Hinterland Harbor
8 [ISD] Forest (3)
8 [ISD] Island (3)
3 [ISD] Swamp (2)


// Creatures
1 [DKA] Ghoultree
2 [ISD] Kessig Cagebreakers
1 [SOM] Molten-Tail Masticore
4 [ISD] Splinterfright
2 [M12] Jace's Archivist
1 [ISD] Skaab Ruinator
4 [ISD] Boneyard Wurm
2 [MBS] Viridian Emissary
3 [ISD] Mindshrieker
4 [M12] Birds of Paradise


// Spells
2 [ISD] Spider Spawning
1 [MBS] Bonehoard
2 [ISD] Forbidden Alchemy
3 [ISD] Mulch
1 [DKA] Tracker's Instincts
3 [ISD] Dream Twist
1 [MBS] Green Sun's Zenith
1 [DKA] Increasing Confusion


// Sideboard
SB: 1 [MBS] Viridian Emissary
SB: 1 [M12] Acidic Slime
SB: 2 [ISD] Armored Skaab
SB: 2 [M12] Mind Control
SB: 1 [SOM] Memoricide
SB: 2 [ISD] Gnaw to the Bone
SB: 1 [SOM] Ratchet Bomb
SB: 3 [NPH] Mental Misstep
SB: 2 [MBS] Steel Sabotage




// Lands

1 [DKA] Grim Backwoods
13 [ISD] Swamp (1)
11 [ISD] Forest (1)


// Creatures
1 [NPH] Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 [SOM] Carnifex Demon
1 [SOM] Wurmcoil Engine
1 [DKA] Vorapede
1 [SOM] Precursor Golem
1 [M12] Acidic Slime
1 [SOM] Skinrender
1 [NPH] Entomber Exarch
1 [M12] Solemn Simulacrum
1 [MBS] Glissa, the Traitor
1 [DKA] Geralf's Messenger
1 [AVR] Borderland Ranger
1 [SOM] Sylvok Replica
4 [DKA] Strangleroot Geist
2 [MBS] Viridian Emissary
1 [SOM] Perilous Myr
4 [M12] Llanowar Elves


// Spells
4 [NPH] Birthing Pod
1 [NPH] Dismember
1 [SOM] Mimic Vat
3 [DKA] Tragic Slip
1 [NPH] Despise


// Sideboard


1 [ISD] Hollowhenge Scavenger
1 [SOM] Acid Web Spider
1 [SOM] Sylvok Replica
2 [AVR] Blood Artist
1 [DKA] Crushing Vines
3 [SOM] Nihil Spellbomb
2 [NPH] Corrosive Gale
2 [AVR] Appetite for Brains
1 [M12] Autumn's Veil
1 [NPH] Despise

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 4:02AM #9
cybishop
Date Joined: Jun 16, 2010
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If I were making an exalted deck, I'd definitely use Sublime Archangel . Grants exalted to all those weenies and tokens and utility creatures that you might as well have because they're efficient and on-color even though they don't fit your theme, and double-exalted to anything that already has it. I opened one at the prerelease and it won me several games. But then, that's not remotely budget.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 24, 2012 - 5:50AM #10
ffang
Date Joined: Mar 13, 2010
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Now, that's how you build on a budget! I know the lands are expensive and lingering souls is a 2 usd uncommon, but still!
Gavin, I reaaaaally like your articles! And I think you've improved my deck-building skills. Thanks.
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