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12 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2012 - 1:57PM #1
Kvothe123
Date Joined: Jul 22, 2012
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Hello together,

recently i was searching for some new games for my girlfriend and me.
I thought back when I was a bit younger and passionately played "YUGIOH"-TGC with some friends of mine.

Well, here I am, wondering if "Magic the Gathering" could be the new game; I have to admit that both of us will play this game about 2-3 times per week, after the first weeks maybe just once per week. I wonder if this game is actually thought for a "bit playing when weather is bad or sth. else"??

If you can recommend this game, my question is: Where do we begin!?

I don't want to spent much money, meaning: buying new cards every week. I wonder if I should buy the "Deck Builder's Toolkit" or a "Duel Deck" or two "Theme Decks" or whatever?


Thank you! 
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2012 - 4:45PM #2
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 4:59AM #3
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If this is just to play casually with your friends and girlfriend, I'd say yes, grab a couple Intro decks (in before everyone says they suck: playing against another intro deck should have them on the same power level, and it won't overload you with too many different things), and when you're ready to start experimenting with making your own, grab the Deck Builder's Toolkit.
Duel Decks are fun, but might have too many things going on for a first time foray into the game.
Event decks are a slightly more tournamant quality form of packaged deck that could be an option as well.
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 5:57AM #4
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You could also grab the Magic 2013 two-player boxed set, which includes enough cards to build two simple decks and play with them.
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Apr 19, 2012 -- 5:36AM, prospector wrote:

Think of how Neo couldn't beat the robots, but they kept him around anyways to defeat Agent Smith. Sure, the robots might not like having a Neo running rampant because instead of playing their favorite 4 drop fatty robot, they have to play a bunch of one mana Matrixs to contain him, but at least Neo keeps Agent Smith from reanimating an Iona on turn two.

Jun 26, 2012 -- 3:07PM, GM_Champion wrote:

Are you saying I'm trying to blame my loss on something? I don't care that I lost, I care that he's a sore loser, and a cheater, and a liar.

Oct 5, 2012 -- 1:36PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

CKY, are you bad at anything?

Oct 25, 2012 -- 9:53PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.

I mean, In KevinWorld, Mark is reading the very words I'm typing as well. Heck, in KevinWorld maybe I am Mark.

Nov 9, 2012 -- 2:27PM, Exxile72 wrote:

I'm beginning to think CKY may be anime in real life...

Feb 11, 2013 -- 7:38AM, Jessica_Morgan wrote:

Don't go anywhere CKY, I need to crash dramatically through your window and propose marriage and I don't want you throwing off my paradrop.

Mar 15, 2013 -- 7:56AM, Knifethrower wrote:

[In response to a thread about how hard grading is]

Upon reading this, I've found myself completely unable to operate in the world.  I tried to decide what to eat for breakfast, and pondered the vast consequences of my choice.  How do I balance my dietary needs against my desire to eat good-tasting food? Should I factor in how long it takes to prepare?  Cereal is ready in moments, but bacon takes longer to cook.

Then there is the impact on other industries.  Do people in the cereal industry deserve to be employed more than people in the bacon industry?  Which industry should I support? I don't even have the data regarding HOW MUCH the cereal industry benefits from me eating a bowl of cereal, or how much the bacon industry benefits from me eating a side of bacon.  How can I compare two qualities I can't even quantify?

And let's not forget the milk on the cereal.  In addition to determining whether or not milk is healthy for me, how much that benefits the milk industry, and how much the people in the milk industry deserve my support, we have to factor in the fact that cows are put under brutal conditions in order to collect thier milk.  Of course, the same goes for the pigs, and then they get killed.  Of course, I really like bacon.  So I need to come up with a scale that compares the value of cow happiness to pig happiness to my happiness.  What trade-offs am I willing to make here?  Does the fact that the pig gets put out of its misery count as a plus or a minus?  Isn't bacon bad for me anyway?

Deciding what to eat for breakfast (or any meal) is impossible.  Help me!

Apr 11, 2013 -- 6:15AM, altimis wrote:

I must admit chinkeeyong, you have the most interesting character ideas; and you play them well.

Apr 12, 2013 -- 7:13PM, magicpablo666 wrote:

Anyway, you'd be surprised about Time Stop. When I first saw that card as a relatively new player I didn't see its full potential until I read the reminder text. Is it that unintuitive, though? Mine I mean. What is possibility? Is it possible for me to type these words with my tusks? No, because I don't have tusks. Although I am now tempted to go buy some - obviously not from poachers or whatever - and use them as typing apparatus. I could be the best secretary ever. "What's your words per minute sir?" "Well, only six, but I use these tusks to type them." "You're hired!" That was the interview. And is anyone else disappointed that "apparati" is not the plural form of apparatus? I just could strangle a dictionary, because "apparatuses" is a real word. I guess it sounds pretty cool. I'll call them my Apparatusks.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 6:22AM #5
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The game is perfectly playable as a once-in-a-while game. Many casual players play like that. Only if you play in tournaments you are required to buy new cards regulary.

As said Dual Decks are more complex than the other products, but they are spicifically designed to be played against each other, so you'll get great value out of them. Perhaps as the next step if you happen to like it.
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 7:04AM #6
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Intro packs tend to teach bad habits, like not including enough removal or card advantage, the pseudo-EDH tendency to include a lot of one-ofs, and so on.

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Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.


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12 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 7:41AM #7
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The duel decks are also full of one-offs. That's just simply something casual decks do and not a bad habit per se.
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 7:52AM #8
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Jul 23, 2012 -- 6:22AM, TobyornotToby wrote:

The game is perfectly playable as a once-in-a-while game. Many casual players play like that. Only if you play in tournaments you are required to buy new cards regulary.





Wouldn't that apply if you only played Standard?  I mean, REGARDLESS of how alive or dead other formats are, there is more than just Standard STILL, right?

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 7:53AM #9
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most FNM is Standard
so that will be THE tournament new players will encounter
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 23, 2012 - 8:35AM #10
Kvothe123
Date Joined: Jul 22, 2012
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Thank you for your answers,

Since I am from Germany I need german cards, I only have the following options:

1.) Duel Decks - Ajani vs. Nicol Bolas
2.) Duel Decks Elspeth vs. Tezzeret
3.) Deck Builder's Toolkit

Unfortunately, there aren't more sets available..

So, which of these three should I pick in order to have sets, that offer nice and funny games for me and my girlfriend, without being boring after having played with them for a while?

Thanks =)
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