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Switch to Forum Live View Next time remove cheating from the AI pls.
11 months ago  ::  Jul 21, 2012 - 10:11PM #1
SwordOfAVirgin
Date Joined: Jun 22, 2009
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 Next time could you please make an AI that plays a legit trimmed deck and doesn't cheat? AI is supposed to simulate a player, not be some wierd challenge mode. You don't have a single mode that actually does this which is rediculous. Playing custom game is stupid because you are playing against decks with no promos or unlocks. Playing revenge is stupid because some of the decks have more copies of certain cards than players are allowed to have and they cheat. Stacked starting hands and draws aren't cool. On top of that it's been proven that the AI knows what you're about to draw and God knows how else it cheats. Just one play mode where we can face an AI that plays a decent deck and doesn't cheat should be an obvious inclusion.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 21, 2012 - 10:53PM #2
meb9000
Date Joined: Jan 28, 2006
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Um, just so you know, there are several Encounter challenges in this game where the opponent has the same fixed draw each time and can run more copies of cards than are usually allowed. The challenge is in beating these fixed strategies since you know they're coming. Don't rant without doiing your research next time.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 21, 2012 - 11:50PM #3
rockshard
Date Joined: Aug 11, 2010
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Jul 21, 2012 -- 10:53PM, meb9000 wrote:

Um, just so you know, there are several Encounter challenges in this game where the opponent has the same fixed draw each time and can run more copies of cards than are usually allowed. The challenge is in beating these fixed strategies since you know they're coming. Don't rant without doiing your research next time.



OP specifically refers to custom game and revenge, meaning he probably wasn't referring to the encounters.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2012 - 12:01AM #4
meb9000
Date Joined: Jan 28, 2006
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However, there should be no "stacked hands" in the revenge or custom modes. Only Encounters have fixed plays and "illegal" decks.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2012 - 12:05AM #5
ShidoshiWins
Date Joined: Jun 26, 2012
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The AI cheats in almost every game, you can't teach a machine to play as well as a human.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2012 - 1:25AM #6
Azurewraith
Date Joined: Jul 6, 2011
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Jul 22, 2012 -- 12:05AM, ShidoshiWins wrote:

The AI cheats in almost every game, you can't teach a machine to play as well as a human.




This is very true anyone rember trying to hit the AI on any smash bros game at lvl 9 as the 3 unallined AI all jump on your face and as soon as you try to mount a counter attack they just dodge and dodge and dodge some more.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2012 - 2:45AM #7
magnetmagic
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Jul 21, 2012 -- 10:11PM, SwordOfAVirgin wrote:

Just one play mode where we can face an AI that plays a decent deck and doesn't cheat should be an obvious inclusion.



+1, also we should be able to modify the AI's deck if we want.

Out of curiosity, is there concrete evidence that the AI fixes its draws in some way?

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2012 - 3:36AM #8
NathanH
Date Joined: Jan 15, 2012
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Custom game mode should be made to allow you to play against standard AI decks, revenge AI decks, and also all the decks that you have built yourself.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2012 - 5:25AM #9
Azurewraith
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Jul 22, 2012 -- 2:45AM, magnetmagic wrote:

Jul 21, 2012 -- 10:11PM, SwordOfAVirgin wrote:

Just one play mode where we can face an AI that plays a decent deck and doesn't cheat should be an obvious inclusion.



+1, also we should be able to modify the AI's deck if we want.

Out of curiosity, is there concrete evidence that the AI fixes its draws in some way?




Im not sure i dont rember seeing any if there is but we all know they do it theres no way in hell they can always top deck what they need via luck.

There is proof that they know what you are going to draw though.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 22, 2012 - 5:29AM #10
Wynzerman
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I think I just had an aneurysm or something because I just walked into a thread about somebody complaining that DotP's AI is too hard... Sure the Duels decks are more coherent than in the previous version, but if you're having a hard time of it, chances are that you're playing poorly, as opposed to the game cheating.


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