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11 months ago ::
Jul 23, 2012 - 12:17PM
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I like your deck. How has Forbidden Alchemy been working for you? Ive considered it but never actually tried it, yet. Youre right about sticking a pike on a Nighthawk. Its pretty much GG when that happens. For my matchups against Zombies i like to bring in my Surgical Extractions  and a Nihi Spellbomb  to help deal with their recurrung creatures. Im currently working on testing out Nepahlia Drownyard  , so i will probably test out forbidden alchemy as well.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 23, 2012 - 12:49PM
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I want this deck to use Mental Misstep in the main. You crush painful flashback cards and terminus and other fast decks cannot get off the ground even if they go first. Do we hate this? 4 x Delver of Secrets  3 x Vault Skirge  3 x Snapcaster Mage  4 x Vampire Nighthawk  4 x Ponder  4 x Gitaxian Probe  3 x Mental Misstep  4 x Mana Leak  3 x Go for the Throat  2 x Dismember  2 x Forbidden Alchemy  3 x Runechanter's Pike  1 x Batterskull  4 x Darkslick Shores  4 x Drowned Catacomb  6 x Island  4 x Swamp  2 x Nephalia Drownyard  I think I like it.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 23, 2012 - 12:58PM
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I lke the inclusion of Misstep in the main. The only thing im not the biggest fan of is Probe, or at least not 4 of them. Ive always been the most comfortable with 3 of them when i run them but thats just my own preference.
It looks like i have a lot of testing and tweaking to do myself.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 23, 2012 - 1:10PM
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3 Probes is probably good.
If I were to cut one I'd add one of the following:
1. Another Spot Removal (Doom Blade or Go For, rebalance them to 2/2)
2. Divination (or another pure draw spell of middling cost to keep from gassing out)
3. Blue Sun's Zenith (so expensive it may never get to do anything for you)
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11 months ago ::
Jul 23, 2012 - 2:12PM
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3 Probes is probably good.
If I were to cut one I'd add one of the following:
1. Another Spot Removal (Doom Blade or Go For, rebalance them to 2/2)
2. Divination (or another pure draw spell of middling cost to keep from gassing out)
3. Blue Sun's Zenith (so expensive it may never get to do anything for you)
Where are the Thought Scours? It's a crime to run Pike without them. I'd prob. go -2 Probe, -1 Batterskull (prob. move this into the board), -1 Nighthawk for the full set of them.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 23, 2012 - 2:47PM
#46
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11 months ago ::
Jul 23, 2012 - 4:46PM
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3 Probes is probably good.
If I were to cut one I'd add one of the following:
1. Another Spot Removal (Doom Blade or Go For, rebalance them to 2/2)
2. Divination (or another pure draw spell of middling cost to keep from gassing out)
3. Blue Sun's Zenith (so expensive it may never get to do anything for you)
If i were to cut 1-2 Probes i would fill the slots with at least 1 Thought Scour. Instant speed pike pump and draw is really good to not include completely. I dont think 4 Thought Scour are necessary if you are running Fobidden alchemy and Nephalia Drown yard.
@ Mallrat
In your list i would cut the Gut Shot and Snag for another spot removal spell and/or Thought Scours. Im not a big fan of Inkmoth Nexus either. Sure, its good with a pike, but your really do not want colorless lands early on. I would probably cut them for 2 Drownyards and a Swamp. I also like a 3rd pike in there, since your not running any other equipment.
EDIT: After playing this deck for a while, ive found that it wants no less than 4 Vampire Nighthawk. It is just too good in the current format and i feel that it is the whole reason to play UB Delver.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 23, 2012 - 7:00PM
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Im curious as to why the lack of Gitaxian probes in these list? Is it just to make room for the other cards or is it just not very good in this deck. Ive been playing around with talrand alot lately and it seems like U/B is the best combo for him.. at least in my testing, so my deck is going to end up looking something like the lists posted here
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11 months ago ::
Jul 23, 2012 - 7:06PM
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Im curious as to why the lack of Gitaxian probes in these list? Is it just to make room for the other cards or is it just not very good in this deck. Ive been playing around with talrand alot lately and it seems like U/B is the best combo for him.. at least in my testing, so my deck is going to end up looking something like the lists posted here
Im not the biggest fan of Gitaxian Probe. Although it draws you a card and gives you info, id rather run Thought Scour to power up my Pikes and i still get a card out. Thats the main reason why i dont run many Probes, if any.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 23, 2012 - 7:58PM
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Probe is good and give you free draw and look at their deck...then you write down all their cards. Next turn...you know what to do on every cards from opponent minus 1 card as opponent draw. Thought Scour is good for Pike to grow. Inkmoth is just simple finisher when Pike grow to 9. Land is fine and I don't have alot of colorless cards...only 4. Feast and Famine is open to replace. 2 is fine and you can bring to 3 if you feel like to
Why you don't like about them? I am curious o.O. Less draw won't move you forward. Don't want to lose hand as you go every turns. That is why draws play large role for Delver decks to win...Delver been winning by draws
Gut Shot need to stay and it is only 1. Vapor Snag is useful for Delver and it should stay as well. I don't see why Gut Shot and Vapor Snag should go unless you have reasons why they should go
How you test against UG Infects...heard it is pretty fast and easy win by turn 3-4 often
I like Surgical Extraction so I would replace for Divine Offering
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