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11 months ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 11:24AM #1
Shamsiel
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Has anyone discussed this before?

My favourite is snow/ice magic. So natural, yet so exotic. 

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 11:40AM #2
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sort of a frostburn?  I think its cool


I always liked the practicality of combining lightning with water to shock someone
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 11:47AM #3
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It's only exotic because Wizards used to portray cold things as either blue or green .  Actually, cold was sorta green's thing for the longest time with stuff like Hail Storm , Ice Storm , Blizzard , etc.  It wasn't until Kamigawa and a bit of Cold Snap did red start to take back part of its identity.  I believe MaRo mentioned on his tumbler at some point that he wished cold spells had a better history of being in red due to their tie in with snowy mountain tops so that it didn't seem so disjointed when they made red cold spells.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 12:03PM #4
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To be fair, whenever a setting is united under a very specific hat, all five colors usually get to play around in that hat.

In Coldsnap, all five colors had access to snow magic to varying degrees.

Cover of Winter

Skred

Chill to the Bone

uhhhhhh Into the North ?
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 1:55PM #5
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Gravity is normally blue , due to it being matter warping space-time and something about the Higgs boson.

A lot of flying hosers like Earthbind and Plummet put it in green or sometimes red.

Another one, one I like more, is World at War . Normally time is also blue , but World at War is obviously time-related, but red.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 2:37PM #6
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Jul 17, 2012 -- 1:55PM, bay_falconer wrote:

A lot of flying hosers like Earthbind and Plummet put it in green or sometimes red.



Earthbind is too old to be relevant.
Also look at it's name and art; nothing gravity about it, same with Plummet.


Another one, one I like more, is World at War . Normally time is also blue , but World at War is obviously time-related, but red.



I always read it as "LET'S FIGHT SOME MORE!!!".

If you want to play up red's time magic, why not make mention of it's actual time magic?

Final Fortune
Last Chance
Warrior's Oath
Stitch in Time

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 2:42PM #7
Terti
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Yes everyone, keep looking at Earthbind 's art. How that's not red flavour I don't know.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 3:14PM #8
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Why would that be red's flavor? I would expect that to be more white's thing in all honesty. (Playing up the whole stricter obedience/service thing. I feel it doesn't quite fit in black because black doesn't quite get the give and take nature of that sort of flavor.)
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 5:23PM #9
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Jul 17, 2012 -- 12:03PM, HairlessThoctar wrote:

To be fair, whenever a setting is united under a very specific hat, all five colors usually get to play around in that hat.




Actually, for Kamigawa, Red got alot of ice magic.


Glacial Ray being an example.

Red is assocaited with mountains, and very tall mountains have ice. So Red does have acess to ice magic.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 17, 2012 - 5:32PM #10
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Jul 17, 2012 -- 5:23PM, Skibo_the_first wrote:

Red is assocaited with mountains, and very tall mountains have ice.



NO THEY DON'T, THEY HAVE FROZEN ISLANDS ON TOP >:U

Kamigawa is the only non-Coldsnap example that I can think of that uses ice magic in red.

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