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11 months ago ::
Jul 16, 2012 - 10:08AM
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LMTRK-
Apparently you didn't read my post carefully enough. If I am wearing a bomb suit (say it gives me "protection from black") and you and I are standing next to a car wired with a bomb (bomb (black source)=destroy all people within 10 feet). The bomb goes off, but I "live" and you "die." Why? Because the bomb has to target us both with it's shrapnel. Because I am wearing armor that "protects" me from the bomb's explosion.
Hence, because I have protection from a color, I shouldn't be "targeted" by ANYTHING from a colored source, including but not limited to Day of Judgement, Dissipation Field, Midnight Banshee, or ANYTHING. Otherwise, what's the point of wearing armor if it didn't protect you from things like that? Now, I could see that a nuclear blast in the same area might cook me in my armor and kill me, but this is a "MAGICal" game. Shouldn't "protection" mean that the blast goes around me, and doesn't harm me (like Globe of Invulnerability in Dungeons and Dragons)? That's all I have been saying.
But again, I conceed the point. In the future, I will have a Darksteel Forge, which will render this argument moot, as ALL of my artifacts will be indestructible, and thus immune to Day of Judgement.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 16, 2012 - 10:11AM
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  The only gray area in Magic lies half way between  and  !
STEP 1: Find your cousin
STEP 2: Get your cousin in the cannon
STEP: 3 Find another cousin
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11 months ago ::
Jul 16, 2012 - 10:11AM
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In the future, I will have a Darksteel Forge, which will render this argument moot, as ALL of my artifacts will be indestructible, and thus immune to Day of Judgement.
but not Black Sun's Zenith 
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11 months ago ::
Jul 16, 2012 - 10:12AM
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proud member of the 2011 community team
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11 months ago ::
Jul 16, 2012 - 10:15AM
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At RadMan323:
You would be correct, and that would be about the only way to kill it! But, since the guy in question was using a White Deck (hence, Day of Judgement), he would have to figure out a way to actually damage Etched Champion indrectly (such as Black Sun's Zenith).
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11 months ago ::
Jul 16, 2012 - 10:15AM
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The only gray area in Magic lies half way between and !
that would be 
I live on the Oregon coast, all the water is gray!
STEP 1: Find your cousin
STEP 2: Get your cousin in the cannon
STEP: 3 Find another cousin
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11 months ago ::
Jul 16, 2012 - 10:17AM
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The only gray area in Magic lies half way between and !
that would be
Blue, Red and Green.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 16, 2012 - 10:19AM
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Because I am wearing armor that "protects" me from the bomb's explosion.
Hence, because I have protection from a color, I shouldn't be "targeted" by ANYTHING from a colored source, including but not limited to Day of Judgement, Dissipation Field, Midnight Banshee, or ANYTHING. Otherwise, what's the point of wearing armor if it didn't protect you from things like that?
Protection is never absolute. Your armour won't protect you from a missile or from missing your wife. Even Super Mario's Invincibility Star didn't protect him from falling down pits.
Same here. Protection protects from DEBT. It's not total immunity.
What's the point? Well, you tell me. What's the point of wearing a bullet-proof vest that doesn't protect you from missiles?
Anyway, this forum is for rules questions. There's another forum for discussing rule wordings. Please continue there. (Or not at all. This is a rather dead horse unless you have something cronstructive to add.)
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11 months ago ::
Jul 16, 2012 - 10:19AM
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At RadMan323:
You would be correct, and that would be about the only way to kill it! But, since the guy in question was using a White Deck (hence, Day of Judgement), he would have to figure out a way to actually damage Etched Champion indrectly (such as Black Sun's Zenith).
Black Sun's Zenith doesnt do any damage.
~ Tim
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Not bad. But what happens flavor wise when one kamahl kills the other one?
Zis iz a sign uf deep psychological troma, buried in zer subconscious mind. By keelink himzelf, Kamahl iz physically expressink hiz feelinks uf self-disgust ova hiz desire for hiz muzzer. [/GermanPsychologistVoice]
That makes no sense to me.
If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed?
~ Tim
Yup, just like you can have Birds of paradise  in a mono green deck but not Noble Hierarch  . YAY COLOR IDENTITY 
Is algebra really that difficult?
Survey says yes.
You want to make a milky drink. You squeeze a cow.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 16, 2012 - 10:30AM
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At LMTRK:
Now who is mincing words? It is putting -1/-1 counters on Etched Champion. That is defined as "indirect" damage. You are still killing him, just not "targeting" him.
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