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11 months ago  ::  Jul 13, 2012 - 10:47AM #1
silpheed_tandy
Date Joined: Jul 15, 2011
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suppose i'm at 1 life, have 9 poison counters, and an empty library; but i also control a laboratory maniac .
now my opponent casts caress of phyrexia on me.

what happens?
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 13, 2012 - 10:49AM #2
Enigma256
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Caress of Phyrexia applies the actions in the order written, so you draw first and because of that win
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 13, 2012 - 10:50AM #3
silpheed_tandy
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so .. state-based actions have some kind of time-stamp ordering..?
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 13, 2012 - 10:51AM #4
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Jul 13, 2012 -- 10:49AM, Enigma256 wrote:

Caress of Phyrexia applies the actions in the order written, so you draw first and because of that win



While its true that you follow the actions in the order written, you would still win if it applied the actions in reverse order.

First you'd go to 12 poison counters, then -2 life, then you'd try to draw from an empty library and win instead.

You don't lose the game until state-based actions are checked, and they won't be checked until after the caress resolves, but you win while it's resolving.

Jul 13, 2012 -- 10:50AM, silpheed_tandy wrote:

so .. state-based actions have some kind of time-stamp ordering..?


No. State based actions happen simultaneously. 

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 13, 2012 - 10:53AM #5
silpheed_tandy
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oh, right, ha, the laboratory maniac making me win is a /replacement/ effect. weird and cool!
thanks. 
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 13, 2012 - 11:18AM #6
ikegami
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Jul 13, 2012 -- 10:53AM, silpheed_tandy wrote:

the laboratory maniac making me win is a /replacement/ effect


Indeed it is. The use of "instead" is a dead giveaway.

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