|
12 months ago ::
Jul 12, 2012 - 10:48AM
#1
|
|
|
Hi I'm almost sure the following scenario is valid, but I want to be absolutely sure as I'm planning to use it a lot: I have Rafiq of the Many  and Geist of Saint Traft  , then I attack only with the geist. It's my understanding that Rafiq's abilities triggers, so the Geist becomes a 3/3 creature with double strike and then the angel comes into battle. Am I right or Rafiq's abilities also see the angel and don't take effect? In the deck I also have a Battlegrace Angel  , so similar case Geist will be 3/3 with lifelink (or 4/4 with lifelink and double strike if I have Rafiq and angel at same time, which is very desirable) Thanks El buen cheo
|
|
|
|
12 months ago ::
Jul 12, 2012 - 10:55AM
#2
|
Date Joined:
Oct 13, 2002
|
You get to choose whether rafiq's abilities or the geist's ability resolves first, but either way the angel token never was declared as an attacker, so it doesn't stop exalted.
All Generalizations are Bad
|
|
|
|
12 months ago ::
Jul 12, 2012 - 10:57AM
#3
|
Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2006
|
You're correct, if you declare an attack with only Geist of Saint Traft, Exalted and the additional abilities of Rafiq and Battlegrace Angel will trigger and buff him. That an other attacking creature appears after those triggered abilities have already triggered doesn't matter.
 Magic The Gathering DCI Rules Advisor Don't hesitate to post rules question in the Rules Q&A forum for me and other competent advisors to answer : http://community.wizards.com/go/forum/view/75842/134778/Rules_Q38A
|
|
|
|
12 months ago ::
Jul 12, 2012 - 10:57AM
#4
|
Date Joined:
Jul 28, 2010
|
there is a very subtle difference in Magic between "attacks" and "attacking"
"attacks" (or "attacked") means "declared as attacker"
"attacking" means simply attacking, no matter how you got there
Rafiq and Exalted only cares about which attackers have been declared, it doesn't matter how many creatures are actually attacking
proud member of the 2011 community team
|
|
|
|
12 months ago ::
Jul 12, 2012 - 11:05AM
#5
|
Date Joined:
Mar 22, 2010
|
What everyone has said is correct. As an additional bit of useful info for you (if you weren't already aware, anyway), say your opponent has a Gideon Jura  that just used its +2 loyalty ability. You have a Geist of Saint Traft  in play, or maybe a Hero of Bladehold  . These creatures would be forced to attack gideon. However, the tokens they generate cannot be declared as attackers since they come into play after you have already declared your attackers, and therefore don't have to attack gideon. Useful to know if the opponent is really low on life.
|
|
|
|
12 months ago ::
Jul 12, 2012 - 12:20PM
#6
|
Date Joined:
Jun 30, 2010
|
Since we are on the topic of useful tricks with Geist of Saint Traft his token in an exalted situation, I have another useful and fun tip as well: unpaired Soulbond creature. Say you have Silverblade Paladin  unpaired and then attack with Geist, his 4/4 Angel token enters the battlefield and then pair it with Silverblade Paladin. Now we have Geist with whatever exalted pumps you want as the only declared attacker, then a flying 4/4 double-striking token for combat. At end of combat, angel token is gone, soulbond broken. Now, rinse and repeat next turn. 
|
|
|
