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12 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 2:35PM #11
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Jul 12, 2012 -- 2:30PM, Nyktos wrote:

But regeneration was. Does anyone know how it was ruled with regard to regeneration back in the day?



Bury = Destroy and cannot be regenerated.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 2:39PM #12
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Jul 12, 2012 -- 2:35PM, MadCow21 wrote:

Jul 12, 2012 -- 2:30PM, Nyktos wrote:

But regeneration was. Does anyone know how it was ruled with regard to regeneration back in the day?


Bury = Destroy and cannot be regenerated.



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12 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 5:48PM #13
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Jul 12, 2012 -- 1:40PM, MadCow21 wrote:

Seeing as how indestructible wasn't a thing at the time it was printed, it could be argued that the current Oracle wording is retaining the original functionality rather than altering it. It seems reasonable that the intent was to only award the life for artifacts that are actually destroyed.



Incorrect.  Indestructible was indeed "a thing" in that it was a concept at the time of the Mirage's Seeds of Innocence .

Consecrate Land (Alpha, Beta, Unlimited) on an animated artifact creature land Mishra's Factory (Antiquities, 4th Edition).  (Yes, Seeds of Innocence would not grant any life because the converted mana cost of Mishra's Factory is 0.)
Guardian Beast (Arabian Nights)

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 13, 2012 - 7:39AM #14
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Jul 12, 2012 -- 5:48PM, mqj wrote:

Jul 12, 2012 -- 1:40PM, MadCow21 wrote:

Seeing as how indestructible wasn't a thing at the time it was printed, it could be argued that the current Oracle wording is retaining the original functionality rather than altering it. It seems reasonable that the intent was to only award the life for artifacts that are actually destroyed.



Incorrect.  Indestructible was indeed "a thing" in that it was a concept at the time of the Mirage's Seeds of Innocence .

Consecrate Land (Alpha, Beta, Unlimited) on an animated artifact creature land Mishra's Factory (Antiquities, 4th Edition).  (Yes, Seeds of Innocence would not grant any life because the converted mana cost of Mishra's Factory is 0.)
Guardian Beast (Arabian Nights)



Fair enough, although the argument that this was actually a power-level errata (if that is indeed your supposition) still seems pretty suspect given that the current wording was put in place more than 2 years prior to the first use of the indestructible keyword, and prior to that time there were never any Guardian Beast/Seeds of Innocence decks menacing Type 1 tables to my recollection.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 16, 2012 - 1:26PM #15
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