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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 4:59AM #11
Herid_Fel
  • Dragon Slayer
Date Joined: Apr 11, 2008
Posts: 2,565

The challenge is finding enough smaller creatures to actually make it to the late game bombs. I'd definitely consider swapping in the Angelic Wall if it felt like my opponent didn't have enough humans for Human Frailty.



This Deck was built in 0:06:06

Total Deck Size: 40

17 Lands
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8 Plains
7 Swamp
2 Mountain

16 Creatures
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1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
2 Blood Artist
1 Crypt Creeper
1 Devout Chaplain
1 Driver of the Dead
1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
1 Maalfeld Twins
1 Moonlight Geist
1 Renegade Demon
1 Searchlight Geist
2 Soulcage Fiend
2 Thraben Valiant
1 Undead Executioner


7 Other Spells
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1 Bone Splinters
1 Defang
1 Human Frailty
2 Necrobite
2 Righteous Blow

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 6:24AM #12
Darkwolfer2002
Date Joined: Jul 31, 2011
Posts: 1,088
If someone really got a cardpool like this I'd want to punch them in the face. So hard to decide which way to go. Blue was the only obvious choice not to use(unless very lightly splashed). IU really wanted to go r/w but felt it was a little weaker than I had wanted it to be.


In the end since green had some mana fixing I went G/W. Doubt it was the best choice but with this cardpool who can say!


This Deck was built in 0:02:55


Total Deck Size: 40 18 Lands
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9 Forest
9 Plains


13 Creatures
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1 Angelic Wall
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
2 Borderland Ranger
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
1 Devout Chaplain
1 Diregraf Escort
1 Midnight Duelist
1 Moonlight Geist
1 Pathbreaker Wurm
1 Thraben Valiant
1 Trusted Forcemage
1 Voice of the Provinces


9 Other Spells
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1 Abundant Growth
1 Angelic Armaments
1 Cloudshift
1 Defang
1 Eaten by Spiders
1 Righteous Blow
1 Scroll of Avacyn
1 Terrifying Presence
1 Triumph of Ferocity

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 6:25AM #13
JonChabot
Date Joined: Mar 18, 2010
Posts: 14

This was a really clever inside joke by the designers, but you gotta love the challenge it presents.  
Pretty sure you need the green gift they give to you fix your mana, but you still can't go more than 3 colors.  I think the big toss up is between going White or Black (Green with a Red splash is pretty easy to support), the black gives a bit more removal, but you don't have enough creatures to really make your board prescence felt.  I think the White gives you better creatures, and access to Glissa, which is a real tank.  I'd avoid Avacyn, as it's a slow, plodding card, but Craterhoof is a tank on a par with Revenge of the Hunted.  


This Deck was built in 0:10:24


Total Deck Size: 40
17 Lands
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7 Forest
3 Mountain
7 Plains



12 Creatures
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2 Borderland Ranger
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
1 Devout Chaplain
1 Fervent Cathar
1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
1 Moonlight Geist
2 Thraben Valiant
1 Trusted Forcemage
2 Voice of the Provinces



11 Other Spells
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1 Abundant Growth
1 Angelic Armaments
2 Cloudshift
2 Joint Assault
1 Righteous Blow
2 Thunderous Wrath
2 Triumph of Ferocity

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 6:39AM #14
Megaware
Date Joined: Feb 9, 2012
Posts: 2
Can someone explain to me the logic behind not playing all 3 angelic armaments?  As great as these bombs are I don't see making room for 8 mana spells before putting them in with these supporting options.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 7:14AM #15
luvinjefe
Date Joined: May 19, 2011
Posts: 45

Jul 12, 2012 -- 6:39AM, Megaware wrote:

Can someone explain to me the logic behind not playing all 3 angelic armaments?  As great as these bombs are I don't see making room for 8 mana spells before putting them in with these supporting options.


You don't play the angelic armaments because they cost 7 to use and do not provide any protection for a potential waste of that much mana (i.e. any kill spell and you just wasted more than a turn of tempo.  The effect can be great, but you need to balance it.  As an example comparing it to the swords, they cost a total of 5 mana, but the effect they all provide is significantly greater.  Or, the cheaper things like the 1 casting cost, 1 to equip, you do not care as much if the creature is removed as it only costs 1 to reequip to something else.

Here is the build I decided on:

10 Forest
8 Swamp

15 Creatures ---------------
2 Blood Artist
2 Borderland Ranger
1 Soulcage Fiend
1 Trusted Forcemage
1 Driver of the Dead
1 Undead Executioner
1 Maalfeld Twins
2 Vorstclaw
2 Pathbreaker Wurm  
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
1 Griselbrand


7 Other Spells
1 Abundant Growth
1 Bone Splinters
1 Human Frailty
2 Joint Assault
2 Triumph of Ferocity
 
As amazing as Tamiyo is, there is no creatures worth anything to support adding blue.  It would have to be a splash.  If it was a match winning card such as Jace, I would absolutely find a way to splash for it.

White is a much better consideration, but after a few mediocre creatures, you have to get to 7 mana to play Gisela (and forces you to play red).    Otherwise the depth is not there.  Same with Red, which actually has some better creatures, but only a handful, again forcing you into three colors.

Green and black, although not exceptionally deep or with 'amazing' creatures until you get to the rares, have cards that you are just fine running out there.  Blood Artist is just rediculous.  Once you get it, every other card can chump/trade and you don't mind much at all.  Having two out will make your opponent not want to attack at all.  You also have two removal spells in black that are much easier to cast than the Thunderous Wraths.

I decided on 18 land because you have to get to 6 mana reliably.  Once you can drop a huge creature, the game should stall until you can win with one of your two bombs.  Your creature set has some serious weight to it, and the only issue you will have is with a base flyer deck.  (you would have serious trouble against a double Mist Raven type deck.

The triumphs are added because you will almost always have 3 power on the table, and most decks won't be able to put 4 up on you, which means you are drawing extra cards almost every turn.

You also have Eaten by Spiders out of the sideboard, along with Searchlight Geist (which I didn't think was incredibly necessary maindeck as you will most likely just chump with it).

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 7:33AM #16
BlackFro
Date Joined: Jan 12, 2012
Posts: 130
There are several bombs in this set, the problem is, most don't match up in color.  My first thought was W/R.  Two monster angels for the top end, but then I looked at Red's creature base... ouch!  Then I saw 2 Blood Artist , which if you have not been playing around with AR you may not realized the sneaky power those pack.  However black doesn't have it's normally sac-ing enablers you normally see in AR.  So I opted for a G/W combo based around racing to get to 8 mana for the Angels or Craterhoof Behemoth .  The core of the deck is actually the key.  Cloudshift and Borderland Ranger to ensure I hit 8 of my first 10 land drops.

Concept is hold on until I hit 8 mana then start dropping bombs.  Because the deck is really reliant on getting out the Ranger and Abundant Growth early I bumped up my Forest count to improve my chance at getting at least 1 early.  By the time I get to 6 or 8 land, I should have 2-3 plains (or white production), so reducing my Plains count shouldn't hurt.

While the deck will be an absolute beast after it hits 8 mana, the challenge will be holding on till then, thus I didn't include the Tormentor's Trident , which is almost always an auto-include in sealed decks I build.

Because of creature counts, I doubt we should see anyone playing R (except the Angel) or U unless strictly as a splash and then probably only R.

This Deck was built in 0:12:51

Total Deck Size: 40
18 Lands
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8 Forest
2 Mountain
8 Plains


14 Creatures
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1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
2 Borderland Ranger
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
1 Devout Chaplain
1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
1 Moonlight Geist
2 Thraben Valiant
1 Trusted Forcemage
2 Voice of the Provinces
2 Vorstclaw


8 Other Spells
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1 Abundant Growth
3 Cloudshift
2 Righteous Blow
2 Triumph of Ferocity

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 8:49AM #17
soularm
Date Joined: Nov 23, 2003
Posts: 435

This Deck was built in 0:11:55


Total Deck Size: 40
16 Lands
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6 Forest
5 Mountain
5 Plains



16 Creatures
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1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
2 Borderland Ranger
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
1 Fervent Cathar
1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
1 Heirs of Stromkirk
1 Kruin Striker
2 Pathbreaker Wurm
1 Riot Ringleader
2 Thraben Valiant
1 Trusted Forcemage
2 Vorstclaw



7 Other Spells
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1 Abundant Growth
2 Cloudshift
2 Righteous Blow
2 Thunderous Wrath



1 Planeswalkers
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1 Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 9:17AM #18
Tymestalker
Date Joined: Aug 11, 2008
Posts: 1,056

One of the hardest I've ever built.  I eschewed Blue almost immediately, as the lack of creatures really hurt.  I tried Red, but didn't like any build I made with it.  I thought about splashing red and using white with green, but the gap between the early drops and the late plays was shocking.  Finally I looked at black, and I think I found my build.  Double Blood Artist makes combat a nightmare, and the Growth, Rangers, and Ferocity can help you get to your best cards by thinning your deck.  I only wanted 1 8-cost card in this deck, and Behemoth I think works better as it makes monsters out of your creatures.

This Deck was built in 0:06:01


Total Deck Size: 40
17 Lands
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9 Forest
8 Swamp



18 Creatures
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2 Blood Artist
2 Borderland Ranger
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
1 Crypt Creeper
1 Driver of the Dead
1 Maalfeld Twins
2 Pathbreaker Wurm
1 Renegade Demon
1 Searchlight Geist
2 Soulcage Fiend
1 Trusted Forcemage
1 Undead Executioner
2 Vorstclaw



5 Other Spells
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1 Abundant Growth
1 Bone Splinters
1 Human Frailty
1 Joint Assault
1 Triumph of Ferocity

Those who fear the darkness have never seen what the light can do.

I've seen angels fall from blinding heights.
But you yourself are nothing so divine.
Just next in line.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 9:28AM #19
Thopters
Date Joined: Jul 12, 2012
Posts: 1
This pool was created with hacks lol (was there even a rare?) but here is what i came up with went BW and splashed a single red for gisella

This Deck was built in 0:07:36

Total Deck Size: 40
18 Lands
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1 Mountain
9 Plains
8 Swamp


12 Creatures
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1 Angelic Wall
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
2 Blood Artist
1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
1 Griselbrand
1 Midnight Duelist
1 Moonlight Geist
1 Searchlight Geist
2 Thraben Valiant
1 Voice of the Provinces


10 Other Spells
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1 Bone Splinters
1 Defang
1 Essence Harvest
2 Necrobite
2 Righteous Blow
3 Unhallowed Pact

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 9:48AM #20
Stormchilde
Date Joined: Sep 21, 2006
Posts: 10
I made a deck and am having trouble sharing. The screen comes up half hidden. Any suggestions?
Firefox. Windows.
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