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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 4:53PM #1
Garmichael
Date Joined: Jun 24, 2008
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 9:28PM #2
implejr
Date Joined: Dec 23, 2010
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implejr's M13 Pre-Release Deck

At the Avacyn Pre-Release, it was my first draft so I drafted what I knew, WG angels and went 2 Ws, 2 Ls, and 1 T. This time, I decided to play against type and try red/black, but I made some pretty elementary mistakes in the construction of my deck. This time, I went 2 Ws and 2 Ls. Next time, I intend to do far better, and will be practicing drafting at home to get it down.

As for what I liked about my deck, my favorite cards were a holo Knight of Infamy and a Sands of Delirium . Here is my decklist:

Creature Spells:

1 Canyon Minotaur
1 Giant Scorpion
2 Knight of Infamy
2 Mogg Flunkies
2 Tormented Soul

Non-Creature Spells:

1 Dark Favor
2 Elixir of Immortality
1 Essence Drain
2 Flames of the Firebrand
1 Krenko's Command
1 Ring of Valkas
1 Ring of Xathrid
1 Sands of Delirium
1 Trumpet Blast
1 Vile Rebirth
1 Volcanic Strength

Lands:

9 Mountain
9 Swamp

Results: 2 Losses & 2 Wins

Analysis

  • My strategy was about getting moggs or tormented souls on the battlefield to swing for lethal damage or use Sands of Delirium. Believe it or not, I did mill a guy out with and got the victory I needed.
  • The enchantments and rings worked well to help me buff up my creatures, especially Tormented Soul, and swing for lethal damage.
  • I used krenko's command and vile rebirth to try and compensate for my lack of solid monsters.
  • The trumpet blasts weren't worth it because I could never get the creatures I needed on the battlefield.
  • The biggest obstacle to my victory? I didn't have enough monsters. Some more experienced players reccommend I use the moggs I drafted and I took the bait. It might've worked out if I had ran red/green, allowing me more creature support for the moggs, but I wanted to try running black (which I felt was my strongest single color).
  • I wish I had gone with my original plan to play black/green. It would've gave me the creature support I needed and I probably would've had even more mana to mill people out with the Sands of Delirium.
  • I did enjoy the black exalted cards and really liked the Sands of Delirium. I am thinking of making a black deck of some kind with M13. Maybe black/white or black/green. Might do a mill deck with sands of delirium.
  • I welcome any thoughts about my terrible drafting here and would love some advice about what to do next time.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 9:54PM #3
Ravenhusky
Date Joined: Jul 10, 2012
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I normally play some combination of Naya colors during our FNM drafts, but I opened a lot of Blue and Black during the M13 Prerelease. Among them, I got a good number of flyers, and two copies of Murder.

RavenHusky's Sealed Blue Black Fliers

43 Cards

17 Lands

1 Evolving Wilds
7 Island
1 Plains
8 Swamp

 16 Creatures

1 Arctic Aven
3 Bloodhunter Bat
1 Faerie Invaders
1 Fog Bank
1 Giant Scorpion
1 Merfolk of the Pearl Tridant
2 Ravenous Rats
1 Vedalken Entrancer
1 Veilborn Ghoul
1 Welkin Tern
2 Wind Drake
1 Xathrid Gorgon (At my shop, we are not allowed to use the participation promo, but I opened one in my sealed pool)

10 Other Spells

1 Blood Reckoning
1 Disentomb
1 Encrust
1 Kitesail
1 Mind Sculpt
2 Murder
1 Sign in Blood
1 Sleep
1 Tricks of the Trade

Since I opened an Arctic Aven and an Evolving Wilds in my pool, I decided that it was worth it to put in a planes to give it the +1/+1 and lifelink, which did help out a couple times, although most of the time, it was essentially tapping for 1 colorless.

The Rats and Merfolk were there as cheap 1 and two drops, which I did not pull many of in my colors other than the Welkin Tern.

The Vedalken was in as a pseudo-wall on the ground, as well as a millstone on a stick, which managed to get rid of an opponent's answers to my cards a few times.

Xathrid Gorgon was the manditory rare in my deck, as the only other rare in my colors (Mythic in this case) was Omniscience, which was too expensive to be worth playing.

All the flyers are self explanitory.

I was at 43 cards as I could not decide what to cut.

I wound up going 3-1 with this deck.

My first match was against a deck that had a horrible pool available, which I won 2-0.

My second match, I lost against a Red-Green Aggro deck,0-2

My third match, I beat a Green-White? deck, which had Yeva in it. 2-0

My last match was against an attempted Door to Nothingness Deck, which never went off during the afternoon, winning 2-0.

While opening packs, the person across from me opened both Chandra, and a Foil Ajani, and one of the younger players opened a foil Nicol Bolas in his prize packs.

Considering this is the day after I pull two copies of Griselbrand at FNM the previous night, one during the draft, and a foil one in my prize packs, in addition the one I pulled buying a couple of packs the previous week.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 10:36PM #4
OrangeCases
Date Joined: Jun 28, 2006
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13 Creatures
2 Aven Squire
1 Silvercoat Lion
1 Attended Knight
1 Guardians of Akrasa
Griffin Protector
Healer of the Pride
Battleflight Eagle
Arctic Aven
Watercourser
Wind Drake

10 Other Spells
Safe Passage
Divine Verdict
Unsummon
Planar Cleansing
Divination
Rewind
Tricks of the Trade
Switcheroo
 
17 Lands
Cathedral of War
Evolving Wilds
Plains
Island

Sideboard
Xathrid Gorgon
Swamp
Intrepid Hero

I won the prerelease I went to, and there were 36 people there, so the deck must have been alright. I went 4-1-1 in the initial rounds (six people were guaranteed spots in the top eight if we agreed to draw, so we all did; my only loss was in the fifth round). The top eight was single elimination, and I won all three rounds, obviously. 

The other rares I got were Yeva, Nature's Herald and Reverberate . Since I never open good rares, I'll take Planar Cleansing and an off-color Xathrid Gorgon any day. 

The all-stars in the deck were Arctic Aven , Planar Cleansing , Switcheroo , Unsummon , and Evolving Wilds . The Cathedral of War was nice, but never vital.  It was also only in round two when someone pointed out to me that it came into play tapped. Whoops. The Griffin Protector s were very strong.   Healer of the Pride allowed me to outrage my opponent more than once; I expected it to be bad, but it really isn't. 

The whole sideboard came in whenever I was facing green, basically. Those Sentinel Spider s were really, really bad for me. Against green, Safe Passage isn't that helpful a trick with my little guys, so it came out, along with Watercourser and Silvercoat Lion since green can deal with them too easily. I also took out a Plains and an Island, so I netted an extra land when I used my sideboard. 

This tournament's lesson: Play Evolving Wilds even if you're only in two colors!!!
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 10:37PM #5
JDogTheDog
Date Joined: Jul 11, 2012
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The night before going to the pre-release I looked at the card database, and decided that I would do my best to make an exalted deck. I was able to pull great cards with exalted and was very excited. My last (and first) pre-release I had gone to was the avacyn restored, and the same thing happened in regards that I wanted to play soul-bond. I went 4-1 that event, and was hooked to sealed deck events. 


JDogTheDog's Black/White exalted beatdown

40 cards

Creature (20)

1x Ajani's Sunstriker
1x Bloodhunter Bat
1x Duskmantle Prowler
1x Duty-Bound Dead
1x Giant Scorpion
1x Guardian Lions
2x Guardians of Akrasa
1x Knight of Glory
1x Knight of Infamy
2x Liliana's Shade
1x Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis
1x Ravenous Rats
1x Serra Avenger
1x Vampire Nighthawk
1x Vampire Nocturnus
1x Walking Corpse
1x War Priest of Thune
1x Zombie Goliath

Land (17)
1x Evolving Wilds
6x Plains
10x Swamp

Sorcery (1)
1x Duress

Enchantment (1)
1x Angelic Benediction

Artifact (1)
1x Kitesail


I was going for an exalted/hoard of creatures deck

I can't remember the exact games, but I did go 5-0 total. (This was surprising and very exciting to me seeing as this was my second sealed deck event/pre-release ever)

Nighthawk won me a few games, as did the nocturnus. 

Nefarox sealed the deal a few times as well. 

The Duty-bound dead was a great turn one open a few times.

angelic benediction worked perfectly with my two knights and I could often get my damage through.
 

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 12:27AM #6
GilderPlaysAkroma
Date Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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At my prerelease, the talk of the store was BW exalted. Everyone wanted Sublime Archangels and Nefarox's. I, having been to a fair number of prereleases, knew that I would not, in fact, get any of the super bomb rares in the set, and I decided to play what the packs gave me. I ended up building UW Fliers:

17 Lands:
9x Plains
7x Island
1x Glacial Fortress

14 Creatures:

1x Warclamp Mastiff
1x Aven Squire
1x Silvercoat Lion
1x Ajani's Sunstriker
2x Attended Knight
1x Pillarfield Ox
1x Battleflight Eagle
1x Serra Angel
1x Serra Avatar
1x Welkin Tern
2x Wind Drake
1x Scroll Thief

9 Non-Creature Spells

1x Unsummon
1x Essence Scatter
1x Sleep
1x Talrand's Invocation
1x Switcheroo
1x Oblivion Ring
1x Captain's Call
1x Elixir of Immortality
1x Ring of Evos Isle

I list them as non-creature spells, but Talrand's Invocation and Captain's Call were some of the best creatures in my deck. 2 2/2 Fliers for 2UU is very powerful, and won me most of my games. This deck took me 3-1, and my one loss was partially from bad play on my part, but also partially from very severe mana screw. Game 1 I kept drawing 0 or 1 land hands, and had to mull to 4 before keeping a 1 land hand, and then getting mana-screwed at 2 plains and 0 islands. Game 2 I won, and then Game 3 I couldn't keep ahead of his Liliana's Specter.

My other matches were relatively easy victories, 2-0 each time. My first was against BGr beatdown, which had extensive mana issues. My second was against RB, but his red creatures were not strong enough to handle all of my white first-strikers. My third (the one I lost) was against UB control, and was disappointing because my deck was the best for dealing with his. His primary win condition was Sands of Delirium, but between Elixir of Immortality, Serra Avatar, and Oblivion Ring, I had plenty of ways to answer a mill deck like his. Unfortunatey, his black creatures were enough to overwhelm me. My last was against UB Exalted, and though he had a very powerful pull, and I did not have a whole lot of ways to deal with that 2/1 Exalted Pro-White black knight, I was able to stablilize around 10 life both games and pull out the victory. In the end, the UB mill deck won the prerelease, and I got second. Can't complain too much!

I did not really sideboard much with this deck. I had a few forests around in case I needed to splash for Naturalize, but that ended up not being necessary. Essentially, I occasionally sided in 1x Negate or 1x Divine Verdict.

Overall, there was only one card I felt was truly missing from this deck: Pacifism! My kingdom for a Pacifism!

In general, I found that the Mastiff did very little, but Attended Knight was amazing. I only cast Ajani's Sunstriker once, and it was relatively underwhelming. Also, Switcheroo is an interesting card. In my deck, it usually meant exchanging a Soldier token for my opponent's best creature. In one game, though, my opponent's switcherood helped me more than him! Against UB Exalted, he used the card to take my Aven Squire (for the exalted), but he gave my Bloodthrone Vampire in exchange! The ground had been severely locked up for five turns now, and I was slowly poking damage through with my drakes in the air. With the vampire, though, everything changed. Suddenly, my ground creatures wer useful again! I guess I should say that Switcheroo is good in the right deck, but be careful because it can also benefit your opponent. And if you are playing someone rather inexperienced, you should probably hope they are running it in case they maek a bad trade.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 12:41AM #7
Blazed
Date Joined: Jul 11, 2012
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I hadn't played in 16 years. Went to the FNM the night before pre-release for an AVR draft. I had played some DotP on the xbox but that's about it.

So my first ever pre-release event and I have little to no experience with sealed at all. Here's what I built, and here's what was in my pool. I'd love to hear some feedback about how I did on my first time building.

Sealed Deck Show

Pool Show

I didn't fare well, going 0-4 in a 4 round swiss. I only managed to win 1 game in the 4 rounds. A couple times I had both mana screw and mana flood, but I'm pretty sure I could have done better with my pool. But experience was all I was after, the time to figure out how to get better is now. I sideboarded in things like Erase, Naturalize, and Plummet as I felt necessary as well as Kitesail if I ran into lots of fliers. I should have used the other ring too I think.

I hope to get some feedback as this was my first time and I have a lot to learn.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 1:45AM #8
Anime2090
Date Joined: Jul 28, 2009
Posts: 5
Going into the Pre-Release, I hadn't quite payed attention to most of the commons and uncommons in the set. So when it came to opening my packs I immediately seperated them into piles according to color and went back to see what I had exactly pulled and almost built my deck without a second thought on what I was playing.

40 Cards

18x Land
1x Evolving Wilds
8x Plains
9x Swamp

9x Creature
1x Aven Squire
1x Bloodhunter Bat
1x Guardians of Akrasa
1x Shimian Specter
2x Silvercoat Lions
1x Sublime Archangel
1x Vampire Nighthawk
1x War Priest of Thune

8x Sorcery
1x Angel's Mercy
1x Captain's Call
2x Disentomb
2x Essence Drain
1x Mind Rot
1x Wit's End

4x Instant
1x Faith's Reward
2x Public Execution
1x Vile Rebirth

1x Enchantment
1x Divine Favor

I managed to go 4-0 and take first that day. I noticed right away that most people didn't do anything to go against creatures with flying, so Vampire Nighthawk ultimately became my best friend. Attach the exalted from the other creatures and they were stuck on a clock that ran up quickly. The only match that had me on end was the last round, because my opponent was running several creatures that needed to be answered immediately, but other than that, I never really faced too many problems coming across what I needed when I needed it.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 1:46AM #9
Highwayman
Date Joined: Feb 3, 2004
Posts: 3,072

CHALLENGE: MAKE A GOOD DECK FROM THE PILE OF CRAP I OPENED


I'll give you an idea of the rubbish I pulled, unlike Steve's godpacks.

rares:
wit's end - unplayable
worldfire - unplayable unless you have thragtusk , which I didn't, and probably unplayable even then
gilded lotus - nice card to pull but not a help here
planar cleansing - ugh
sands of delirium - virtually unplayable
xathrid gorgon - yay, a playable rare

one $5 rare and five $1 rares, so I'm not walking away with any value

Onto deck construction... as best I can recall

White

3 x war falcon , with exactly one other solider / knight
2 x show of valor , which is fine as long as you get some good creatures
no good creatures except for a prized elephant and ajani's sunstriker , with a battleflight eagle which might have been playable if I had a fast curve
1 x Glorious charge would have been great in someone's deck I'm sure
1 x angel's mercy and divine favor rounded out my frustrations
1 x rain of blades , erase

Blue

2 x merfolk of the pearl trident ... gimme a break here
Best card by far was talrand's invocation , then encrust , unsummon and finally  divination , but with so few other cards I just pushed this color aside (remaining cards included tricks of the trade , foil tricks of the trade , index and harbor serpent , to give you an idea)

Black

Black was basically auras: 2 x dark favor , 2 x mark of the vampire , 2 x crippling blight
I also got 1 x cower in fear and a Public Execution and knight of infamy
creatures I can recall: ravenous rats , bloodhunter bat , bloodthrone vampire and giant scorpion
Also had duress and mind rot and sign in blood

Red

2 x smelt , 1 x cleaver riot , 2 x chandra's fury , 1 x searing spear (!)
2 x goblin battle jester - yeesh
1 x craterize , 1 x mark of mutiny
think my best creature was a canyon minotaur

Green

1 x farseek - good, because I'm going to need it
1 x elvish visionary , 1 x acidic slime , 1 x bond beetle ... more promising
1 x deadly recluse
1 x rancor (!)
1 x roaring primadox
2 x serpent's gift , 1 x titanic growth , 1 x ranger's path
1 x timberpack wolf
1 x yeva's forcemage
1 x spiked baloth
2 x plummet

Colorless

1 x elixir of immortality
1 x ring of evos isle
1 x ring of valkas
1 x kitesail


I challenge Steve (or anyone else) to put together a good deck from this. I went 2-2-1, and I think that was an achievement.

The trouble with M13 sealed is that you seem to be able to get flooded with tricks and auras with nothing to cast them on, and my removal was aces against anybody playing */1 creatures, but weak after that.

I got owned by some guy playing mono fatties, and by another who had mono bombs.

I'm trying to recall the other cards I pulled (I'm currently 6 commons and 3 uncommons short).

I'll post what I played later.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 1:53AM #10
licalier
Date Joined: Jul 11, 2012
Posts: 41
17 Lands
8 x Plains
8 x Forests
1 x evolving wilds

11 Creatures

1 x war falcon
1 x attended knight
2 x ajani's sunstriker
1 x knight of glory
1 x guardians of akrasa
1 x silvercoat lion
2 x sentinel spider
1 x Primal huntbeast
1 x chronomatron

14 Spells

1 x Faith's Reward
1 x Predatory Rampage
2 x plummet
2 x pacifism
2 x titanic growth
2 x Show of valor
1 x kitesail
1 x ranger's path
1 x ring of thune
1 x ring of kalonia

Sideboard

1 x battleflight eagle
1 x stuffy doll
1 x Vastwood gorger
1 x pacifism

I was forced to go into White and Green as I had basically no blue creatures and very few spells for black and red. This was a little annoying as my best cards from the packs were Hellion Crucible and Nicol Bolas, but I decided to go for the safe side and went for a strategy that relied on removal of enemy bombs with combat tricks and my removal spells. This turned out to be very important as I played two decks that had Sublime Archangels, and in both rounds they got played in 2 out of 3 games (thank you pacifism! thank you people that don't draft erase!). Faith's Reward and Predatory Rampage were my fallbacks, and they did win me one game as I was able to clear the board which had been full of black creatures that were about to swarm me for the kill.

In the end however I finished the day 3-3, as I ran into some bad matchups as I initially worked my way up the rankings. My first loss was to a white red combo deck which used 2 trading posts me stop me stone dead (2 goats a turn, and 4 life gain every turn from Healer of the Pride) while he used Staff of Nin to knock out my creatures one by one. My second loss was mainly due to bad luck, as I somehow drew 7 of my nine plains and nothing else. This was after I used evolving wilds to shuffle my deck as well...

My final loss however was a reminder in pain, as my opponent had been lucky enough to get 4 rancors from his packs. His green and red beatdown took advantage of the recurring +2/+0 trample bonus to simply beat me into the ground (Question: What was the reasoning behind this reprint again? Especially since Doom Blade is going out of standard!). If I had drawn my pacifisms I might have survived, but I was unable to draw them, or the stuffy doll I had included just to face this guy. On the other hand, this might have been my own fault, as I only realised when I drew plummet that I had forgotten to sideboard this flying-only removal spell for the pacifism in my sideboard...

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