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11 months ago ::
Jul 06, 2012 - 2:04PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Making Magic, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 08, 2012 - 9:46PM
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Have you ever seen a cheerleading movie (and if you haven't, props to you) where it's time for try-outs and the head cheerleader explains that it doesn't matter who's been on the team before? Everyone is on equal footing and has to prove themselves in the try-out. I feel the core set is like that.
So it's not a cheerocracy. MaRo's the cheertator. He makes the cheercisions around there and he deals with the cheeronsequences.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 08, 2012 - 9:46PM
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One day, R&D said "Let's make regeneration not suck"... Never mind Incinerate, those five words killed Wrath of God. That's really, really, sad to me.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 08, 2012 - 10:32PM
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" Why do we keep hosing regeneration? It wasn't powerful. In fact, it meant very little because it was useless against so many kill spells."
Perhaps it is different in modern school lunchtable play, but regeneration was powerful in ground stally early "casual" play. (In my case, "a bunch of 4th edition & Ice Age cards from the commons box.") How do you get past that damn Uthden Troll  or Will-o'-the-Wisp  ?! The bury clause came up because when you finally draw your kill spell, you want to have it actually WORK to get out of the stall, since regen was basically seen as a combat mechanic. I still play MTGO, and when playing newish players (which are probably a much more skilled subset than real life newish players!), they often still play giant creature stall decks where regeneration is at its best. If there's no way to get past the regen, it does feel frustrating, so I think a reasonable amount of common regen-hosing is still in order even if better, more serious decks can cope with regen easily without need for a specific hoser.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 08, 2012 - 10:40PM
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"Why do we keep hosing regeneration? It wasn't powerful. In fact, it meant very little because it was useless against so many kill spells."
Perhaps it is different in modern school lunchtable play, but regeneration was powerful in ground stally early "casual" play. (In my case, "a bunch of 4th edition & Ice Age cards from the commons box.") How do you get past that damn Uthden Troll or Will-o'-the-Wisp ?! The bury clause came up because when you finally draw your kill spell, you want to have it actually WORK to get out of the stall, since regen was basically seen as a combat mechanic.
I still play MTGO, and when playing newish players (which are probably a much more skilled subset than real life newish players!), they often still play giant creature stall decks where regeneration is at its best. If there's no way to get past the regen, it does feel frustrating, so I think a reasonable amount of common regen-hosing is still in order even if better, more serious decks can cope with regen easily without need for a specific hoser.
Tons of cards just naturally get around regeneration. You do not need to print cards that specifically hose it.
Geth's Verdict  , Grasp of Darkness  , Oblivion Ring  , Pacifism  , Unsummon 
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11 months ago ::
Jul 08, 2012 - 10:50PM
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Have you ever seen a cheerleading movie (and if you haven't, props to you) where it's time for try-outs and the head cheerleader explains that it doesn't matter who's been on the team before? Everyone is on equal footing and has to prove themselves in the try-out. I feel the core set is like that.
So it's not a cheerocracy. MaRo's the cheertator. He makes the cheercisions around there and he deals with the cheeronsequences.
I would like to point out that Mark's opinions on cheerleader movies do not reflect those of everybody at Wizards of the Coast. Because Bring It On is great.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 08, 2012 - 11:37PM
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I'm still kind of amazed that nobody who says regeneration used to suck had ever heard of the combat phase. Dialing down the hate a bit I'm fine with, but regeneration comes fairly close to "Indestructible if you have mana" now, which seems far more obnoxious, particularly in limited.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 12:18AM
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Have you ever seen a cheerleading movie (and if you haven't, props to you) where it's time for try-outs and the head cheerleader explains that it doesn't matter who's been on the team before? Everyone is on equal footing and has to prove themselves in the try-out. I feel the core set is like that.
So it's not a cheerocracy. MaRo's the cheertator. He makes the cheercisions around there and he deals with the cheeronsequences.
I would like to point out that Mark's opinions on cheerleader movies do not reflect those of everybody at Wizards of the Coast. Because Bring It On is great.
Bring It On is camp. Intentionally so. It is not authoritative.
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 2:05AM
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11 months ago ::
Jul 09, 2012 - 3:29AM
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These were pretty interesting insights. But it does feel to me that a mailbag column ought not to be an assortment of questions gathered over an hour on Twitter, but an assortment of the best questions received by email (or post if you still get any of them) over the past few months. (I've never seen a cheerleading movie, and in fact, I wasn't even aware there was such a thing as a cheerleading movie. In fact, I'm still not quite sure I believe there's such a thing.)
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