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12 months ago  ::  Jul 05, 2012 - 9:00PM #11
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Jul 5, 2012 -- 4:53PM, The_Mirror_Owl wrote:

Of course, now I'm afraid they'll just move the genre of patently stupid creatures down into the five cmc zone.  Thragtusk, Hellkite, and even Sigarda are definitely pushing the envelope of bonkers quality for the cost.  I daresay those cards would have cost 7 back in the era you're talking about, Wynzerman.  I understand they're trying to make 5 drops the new 6 drop, but dang.




To be fair the only reason to be complacent (in my view) is that it seems that measures of dealing with these great 5 drop creatures are teetering up the CMC scale. I sincerely hope that I'm wrong in this regard and RtR is a bastion of a well costed removal spells and doomsday spells. I don't think, however that giving Flametongue-esque rates that scale with the higher costs is all that bad for the game, so long as the means of undermining them stick in full force. I like my Arctic Nishoba s more than the next guy, but you really do need more juice for higher mana costs to make the spells worth playing.

It seems quite funny to me that the scale seems to be trying to make 5 and 6 drops somewhere above Flametongue and somewhere below Titans.



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12 months ago  ::  Jul 05, 2012 - 9:20PM #12
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 05, 2012 - 9:22PM #13
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Hellkite is a SB card anyway it's not Baneslayer 2.0 so really there's no problem with it at all.
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 05, 2012 - 9:54PM #14
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Jul 5, 2012 -- 9:22PM, RorixCollector wrote:

Hellkite is a SB card anyway it's not Baneslayer 2.0 so really there's no problem with it at all.



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12 months ago  ::  Jul 06, 2012 - 3:08AM #15
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Jul 5, 2012 -- 9:22PM, RorixCollector wrote:

Hellkite is a SB card anyway it's not Baneslayer 2.0 so really there's no problem with it at all.



Yeah, it's such a good sideboard card that I'm going to have it preboarded in every match.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 06, 2012 - 4:51AM #16
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Jul 6, 2012 -- 3:08AM, S1AL wrote:

Jul 5, 2012 -- 9:22PM, RorixCollector wrote:

Hellkite is a SB card anyway it's not Baneslayer 2.0 so really there's no problem with it at all.



Yeah, it's such a good sideboard card that I'm going to have it preboarded in every match.



Quality sideboard slots right there.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 06, 2012 - 7:47AM #17
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Jul 6, 2012 -- 3:08AM, S1AL wrote:

Jul 5, 2012 -- 9:22PM, RorixCollector wrote:

Hellkite is a SB card anyway it's not Baneslayer 2.0 so really there's no problem with it at all.



Yeah, it's such a good sideboard card that I'm going to have it preboarded in every match.



Hahaha.  Yes. 

The card is insane.  Lingering Souls and Timely have been a shutdown for red all this standard, and this card turns that on its head.  This really is a flying man's format, which Hellkite literally tears a hole out of.

To me, it's not different than Baneslayer at all.  It does a different thing for a different type of deck, but it fills the same roll in those decks that BSA did in its decks.  It's the "okay guy, we've bandied spells for a while, now I'm gonna lock the game up" card.  BSA equalled putting its controller's life total out of reach while being a huge blocker/finisher for decks that wanted to survive.  Hellkite equals a huge chunk of damage that's insanely hard to kill, and the better part of a boardwipe against decks where it matters, for decks that just want to break things.  Noooot a sideboard card.

Jun 19, 2012 -- 8:50PM, catowner wrote:

Welcome to 2012.  Blue has the most efficient creatures, black has the all-in monocolored aggro deck, the most controlling deck in the format is green-red, control decks lose to aggro in attrition wars, and counterspells aren't an answer to fatties.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 06, 2012 - 8:30AM #18
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 9:54PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Why does everyone assume he's wondering why it's overcosted? Maybe he meant undercosted? 




maybe he should have written more down in his post.... so as to avoid all these useless posts

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 06, 2012 - 8:49AM #19
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I personally plan on losing to hellkite a lot in the next year.

Good job, wizards. You made a good dragon for the first time since I started plaing.
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 06, 2012 - 9:00AM #20
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Jul 6, 2012 -- 8:49AM, S1AL wrote:

I personally plan on losing to hellkite a lot in the next year. Good job, wizards. You made a good dragon for the first time since I started plaing.




i thoroughly enjoyed this post, made me laugh

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