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11 months ago  ::  Jul 03, 2012 - 11:00PM #11
Qmark
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Jul 3, 2012 -- 10:53PM, zammm wrote:

Notice anything unusual?


It's obviously intentional, or Dan wouldn't have re-flipped it.

But why?  I don't see the point of hiding that in there.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 04, 2012 - 2:37AM #12
Soular
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I think that both artworks can be somewhat considered unfitting. Having some flashy light to describe any magical ability is kind of generic. Heck, I didn't know the card Vedalken Dismisser so at first glance I thought I was looking at a reprint. Maybe what it needed is some context or some way to make it unique. Perhaps showing the victim or giving the character a special motion or gesture (Make the dissmisser look like he's really dissmissing or the entrancer like he's really entrancing).

Jul 3, 2012 -- 10:53PM, zammm wrote:

And for those who haven't seen Vedalken Entrancer 's art close-up before, take a second, closer look at his squiggly chest wrap. Notice anything unusual?



"Moon"? Is that supposed to hint to Moonfolk in some way maybe?

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 06, 2012 - 8:23PM #13
EternalLurker
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Serra Angel's playtest artwork was X-Men's Angel? o_O
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 2:48AM #14
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Jul 4, 2012 -- 2:37AM, Soular wrote:

I think that both artworks can be somewhat considered unfitting. Having some flashy light to describe any magical ability is kind of generic. Heck, I didn't know the card Vedalken Dismisser so at first glance I thought I was looking at a reprint. Maybe what it needed is some context or some way to make it unique. Perhaps showing the victim or giving the character a special motion or gesture (Make the dissmisser look like he's really dissmissing or the entrancer like he's really entrancing).



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Jan 5, 2013 -- 9:32PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jan 4, 2013 -- 5:20AM, LMTRK wrote:

That makes no sense to me.

If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed?

~ Tim   


Yup, just like you can have Birds of paradise in a mono green deck but not Noble Hierarch . YAY COLOR IDENTITY


Oct 26, 2012 -- 9:56PM, zammm wrote:

Oct 26, 2012 -- 12:24AM, Raeoran wrote:

Is algebra really that difficult?

Survey says yes.


Jul 7, 2011 -- 12:59AM, Novacat wrote:

Jul 7, 2011 -- 12:36AM, LMTRK wrote:

You want to make a milky drink. You squeeze a cow.


I love this description. Like the cows are sponges filled with milk. I can see it all Nick Parks claymation-style with the cow's eyes bugging out momentarily as a giant farmer squeezes it like a squeaky dog toy, and milk shoots out of it.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 09, 2012 - 4:23PM #15
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Jul 3, 2012 -- 4:43AM, Spikeshot_Goblin wrote:

Make Conley Woods write Building on a Budget.

JVL is not building on what most players consider a budget. His decks are just tier 2 decks with less copies of expensive cards. Half of that is the fault of the way the game is designed, but I think most budget players just want cool decks to play, not just trying to win against better decks more often. Conley is a boss at rogue decks, he could totally write that article good. 




I won't make allusions to the author's Conley Woods fanboyism. Oh, wait, I already did? Shoot.

Brian David Marshall is the best and only GOOD player of this game that was widely acknowledged as the writer of BoaB. While this may seem dismissive of past writers, we know that Jacob van Lunen's skills do NOT lie in "budget." This has NOTHING to do with how this game is designed, as BDM proved, and the skill with which BDM managed the task of making Budget decks work in interesting ways implicates the fault not on "design" in the game, but approach of the authors. JVL did not approach the BoaB column with the same perspective as BDM, and should not be faulted for it. I am happy that JVL is getting a column that better suites his skills, so that the readers of the column will not HARP on him constantly for not living up to the bar BDM set. Yes, this is BDM fanboyism.

That said, Conley Woods may also be unable to make budget decks. Just because he can make rogue decks, doesn't mean that those decks will also be "budget." That is, if anything, what JVL's approach aimed for as well, to find niche approaches to common deck types, to fight deck types, specific solutions, and rounded strategies. If you wanted Conley to do BoaB, then I fear you will just get more of JVL, and only the man's fans will keep the forums up. Redefining what "BoaB" means to preserve a column for an author capable of doing what another author also did but which was largely considered NOT true to "BoaB"? Yeah, that won't fly, McFly.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 10, 2012 - 5:19PM #16
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So, M13 gives us two new Plains, two new Swamps, and zero new Mountains.  Whassup witdat?
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 8:06AM #17
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There are still some twigs and grass shoots that make Goliath look normal-sized, and I guess that's why it's always been hard for me to be fooled. I wish I could say the smaller ones helped, but... I swear they're just mini zombies!
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 10:29PM #18
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Re Primal Clay Arcana:

Just chiming in to say that the original Kaja Foglio art is still the best here.  Primal Clay is best played a bit silly.  No need to have badass dragon clay figures; just goofy expressions on half-formed clay people works.
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2012 - 10:52PM #19
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Jul 11, 2012 -- 10:29PM, SnowFire wrote:

Re Primal Clay Arcana:

Just chiming in to say that the original Kaja Foglio art is still the best here.  Primal Clay is best played a bit silly.  No need to have badass dragon clay figures; just goofy expressions on half-formed clay people works.


Also, it seems to not have been mentioned, but that art actually has a much deeper meaning. If you look with attention in the lower part between the woman and the man, there is a snake. Being it that the card is named "primal clay", it seems very obvious this a reference to Adam and Eve. What makes the glowing, golden hands holding it all actually God's hands.

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Jan 14, 2012 -- 5:42PM, Vektor480 wrote:

I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".


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Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:28PM, Qmark wrote:

Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:15PM, ROBRAM89 wrote:

Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.

Now, now.
1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".


Oct 11, 2011 -- 9:43PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Oh, it's a brilliant plan.  You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat.  Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit.  He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee.  "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk.  He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy.  He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right.  Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms.
"THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!"

And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.


Feb 25, 2012 -- 2:54PM, Mown wrote:

Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.


Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:47PM, Qmark wrote:

Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:36PM, SleetFox wrote:

This thread has gotten creepy.  XP

Really?
Really?

The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?


Jun 26, 2011 -- 5:52AM, MrQuizzles wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:59AM, Mown wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:44AM, skeindubh wrote:


4 tropical island
4 savannah
4 bayou
4 taiga
4 savannah


Nice mana base.
Not really.



Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.


May 2, 2011 -- 8:18AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.


Apr 3, 2011 -- 1:39AM, DrWorm wrote:

Apr 3, 2011 -- 12:02AM, crazysamaritan wrote:

Of course, the best use [of tolaria west ] is transmuting for the real Tolaria.



Absolutely.  I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria , and I was finally able win my first game.


Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:17PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

WOAH

wait wait wait

Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated



OH MY GOD


Nov 22, 2011 -- 3:52PM, Pontiac wrote:

The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 8:55PM, Glasir wrote:

The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.


Jan 21, 2011 -- 7:11AM, Qmark wrote:


Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available.
"No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.


Jul 10, 2012 -- 11:28AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.



Aug 3, 2011 -- 6:46PM, ChaosLight wrote:

You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 7:30PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Oct 10, 2011 -- 5:53PM, Rubik wrote:

You just... Vektor it.


That's the answer to everything.


Jan 17, 2011 -- 6:16PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

Jan 17, 2011 -- 5:58PM, Ragnarokio wrote:


I think the problem is that you don't exist.


This would sound great out of context!


Dec 19, 2011 -- 9:07PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.


Aug 4, 2011 -- 2:15PM, Mown wrote:

Aug 4, 2011 -- 1:45PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:


I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.


You make it sound like that's still not the case.


Jan 4, 2011 -- 3:04AM, Niklor wrote:

Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.


Doug Beyer:

But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?


Mar 20, 2012 -- 1:32PM, Terti wrote:

Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :


Aug 15, 2011 -- 8:06PM, Veslfen wrote:

to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.


Aug 1, 2011 -- 12:35AM, Ragnarokio wrote:

when in rome RAPE AND PILLAGE


Jan 31, 2012 -- 11:23AM, TchainT wrote:

I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.


Dymecoar:

Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets.  You can do it...but why?


Omega137:

Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right."
Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"


Zigeif777:

Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.


Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:29AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:09AM, quadibloc wrote:

It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf , Darksteel Colossus , or Platinum Angel . It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus , Mox Sapphire , and Time Walk .


Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.


Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:11PM, Test-Subject_217601 wrote:

Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:06PM, NeoMint wrote:

I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...


They can when they're using lightsabers !


Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:59AM, Sebanovich wrote:

Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:54AM, Long_Con wrote:

My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days.  We named it Grixis, but it died. 


Unearth it!


Jan 15, 2011 -- 8:07PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

I'm a Da Vinci Neurok.





And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you?
Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now.
Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 12, 2012 - 7:43AM #20
Mizzle25
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Jul 11, 2012 -- 10:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Also, it seems to not have been mentioned, but that art actually has a much deeper meaning. If you look with attention in the lower part between the woman and the man, there is a snake. Being it that the card is named "primal clay", it seems very obvious this a reference to Adam and Eve. What makes the glowing, golden hands holding it all actually God's hands.


Yeah, I was going to say. "The clay is actually very small"? The hands are just big. They're glowy golden hands sculpting humanity out of primal clay, seems fairly obvious they belong to God. I don't see the snake though, there's just the lower half of Adam's leg and a couple of swirly lines coming off Eve where she's still forming.

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