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12 months ago  ::  Jun 28, 2012 - 10:45PM #11
hamazing
Date Joined: Nov 6, 2006
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It's a really cool concept, but as a card, all it's going to do is ruin a lot of EDH games.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 28, 2012 - 10:55PM #12
PhyrexianRogue
Date Joined: Apr 26, 2011
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Jun 28, 2012 -- 9:27PM, Ertai87 wrote:


Also, I predict that someone, somewhere, is going to be very frustrated by this card when his opponent thinks he can just cast anything for absolutely free and start casting Kuldotha Rebirths and Infernal Plunges all willy-nilly (sorry, bad examples, but they were the first 2 that came to mind).  Any particular reason why the card doesn't just remove all costs, period?




Probably for cards like Momentous Fall, which require the additional cost to function. 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 28, 2012 - 10:56PM #13
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Jan 14, 2012 -- 5:42PM, Vektor480 wrote:

I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".


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Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:28PM, Qmark wrote:

Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:15PM, ROBRAM89 wrote:

Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.

Now, now.
1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".


Oct 11, 2011 -- 9:43PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Oh, it's a brilliant plan.  You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat.  Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit.  He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee.  "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk.  He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy.  He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right.  Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms.
"THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!"

And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.


Feb 25, 2012 -- 2:54PM, Mown wrote:

Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.


Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:47PM, Qmark wrote:

Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:36PM, SleetFox wrote:

This thread has gotten creepy.  XP

Really?
Really?

The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?


Jun 26, 2011 -- 5:52AM, MrQuizzles wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:59AM, Mown wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:44AM, skeindubh wrote:


4 tropical island
4 savannah
4 bayou
4 taiga
4 savannah


Nice mana base.
Not really.



Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.


May 2, 2011 -- 8:18AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.


Apr 3, 2011 -- 1:39AM, DrWorm wrote:

Apr 3, 2011 -- 12:02AM, crazysamaritan wrote:

Of course, the best use [of tolaria west ] is transmuting for the real Tolaria.



Absolutely.  I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria , and I was finally able win my first game.


Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:17PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

WOAH

wait wait wait

Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated



OH MY GOD


Nov 22, 2011 -- 3:52PM, Pontiac wrote:

The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 8:55PM, Glasir wrote:

The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.


Jan 21, 2011 -- 7:11AM, Qmark wrote:


Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available.
"No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.


Jul 10, 2012 -- 11:28AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.



Aug 3, 2011 -- 6:46PM, ChaosLight wrote:

You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 7:30PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Oct 10, 2011 -- 5:53PM, Rubik wrote:

You just... Vektor it.


That's the answer to everything.


Jan 17, 2011 -- 6:16PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

Jan 17, 2011 -- 5:58PM, Ragnarokio wrote:


I think the problem is that you don't exist.


This would sound great out of context!


Dec 19, 2011 -- 9:07PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.


Aug 4, 2011 -- 2:15PM, Mown wrote:

Aug 4, 2011 -- 1:45PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:


I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.


You make it sound like that's still not the case.


Jan 4, 2011 -- 3:04AM, Niklor wrote:

Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.


Doug Beyer:

But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?


Mar 20, 2012 -- 1:32PM, Terti wrote:

Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :


Aug 15, 2011 -- 8:06PM, Veslfen wrote:

to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.


Aug 1, 2011 -- 12:35AM, Ragnarokio wrote:

when in rome RAPE AND PILLAGE


Jan 31, 2012 -- 11:23AM, TchainT wrote:

I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.


Dymecoar:

Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets.  You can do it...but why?


Omega137:

Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right."
Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"


Zigeif777:

Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.


Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:29AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:09AM, quadibloc wrote:

It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf , Darksteel Colossus , or Platinum Angel . It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus , Mox Sapphire , and Time Walk .


Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.


Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:11PM, Test-Subject_217601 wrote:

Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:06PM, NeoMint wrote:

I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...


They can when they're using lightsabers !


Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:59AM, Sebanovich wrote:

Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:54AM, Long_Con wrote:

My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days.  We named it Grixis, but it died. 


Unearth it!


Jan 15, 2011 -- 8:07PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

I'm a Da Vinci Neurok.





And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you?
Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now.
Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2012 - 12:01AM #14
DacenOctavio
Date Joined: Sep 5, 2009
Posts: 53
This card is a match made in heaven with Arcanis. He's not really omnipotent, he's omniscient. The enchantment isn't omniscient at all, it's omnipotent. Together, they make you into a god. Arcanis even helps you draw into lands to play the enchantment or other spells go generate ramp. They even both cost triple blue.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2012 - 12:25AM #15
bateleur_
Date Joined: Oct 16, 2007
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Jun 28, 2012 -- 10:45PM, hamazing wrote:

It's a really cool concept, but as a card, all it's going to do is ruin a lot of EDH games.


It might, but as cards in that category go I think this is a fairly benign one. There has long been a trend in WotC's card designs that at 9+ mana a card can basically just win the game. This one is counterable, can be taken out by Enchantment removal and doesn't even do anything on its own. I don't imagine I'd often consider a game won by this card to be "ruined". If nobody at the table can do anything about it that seems like a fairly legitimate win to me.

Look at it this way: it makes spells free. If you have TEN MANA, why do you need free spells?!

(That said, I'm off to build a deck that sticks this under a Hideaway land... Cool)

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2012 - 1:01AM #16
Lochleinn
Date Joined: Jul 19, 2007
Posts: 80

Jun 28, 2012 -- 9:17PM, chronego wrote:

Sorry, Zac. You can try justifying the flavor of this all you want, but you're wrong. This card doesn't represent 'knowing everything' at all. It represents unlimited power. It's Omnipotence, not Omniscience.

Knowledge, in Magic, is cards in hand. Knowing everything would be having access to any card in the game. It would, in terms of a game of Magic, be represented as having access to your entire deck at once, via either drawing your entire library, or being able to tutor each turn for exactly the card you need.

No matter how much this may reduce the cost of your spells, it doesn't give you any knowledge (card draw) at all. It's an absolute, undeniable failure as a top-down design.

Cool design. But definitely the wrong name.





Yes. Exactly. Exactly why I was sad when I scrolled down. How could they whiff so monumentally? Now the word Omniscience is used and they can't use it again, and it's wrong (you can even hear him reaching in the article for why it makes sense, but it doesn't).

I was brainstorming what Omniscience could be. I alighted on knowing what your opponents are thinking:

Omnscience 7uuu enchantment
You may look at any opponent's hands or libraries at any time. At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, that opponent declares which spells they will cast that turn. At the beginning of your upkeep, each opponent declares which of their creatures will attack you during their turn.

Enh. THAT's horrible. Also more PREscience than omniscience. Hmm.

But yeah, this card is more omnipotence than omniscience. What would omnipresence look like?

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2012 - 1:31AM #17
watto
Date Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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Jun 29, 2012 -- 12:25AM, bateleur_ wrote:

Jun 28, 2012 -- 10:45PM, hamazing wrote:

It's a really cool concept, but as a card, all it's going to do is ruin a lot of EDH games.


It might, but as cards in that category go I think this is a fairly benign one. There has long been a trend in WotC's card designs that at 9+ mana a card can basically just win the game. This one is counterable, can be taken out by Enchantment removal and doesn't even do anything on its own. I don't imagine I'd often consider a game won by this card to be "ruined". If nobody at the table can do anything about it that seems like a fairly legitimate win to me.

Look at it this way: it makes spells free. If you have TEN MANA, why do you need free spells?!

(That said, I'm off to build a deck that sticks this under a Hideaway land... Cool)




this...EDH doesn't need these possibly broken/banned cards.
If I wanted to play yugioh (which I don't)...

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2012 - 1:34AM #18
CFL
Date Joined: May 31, 2004
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I agree with everyone else on the name thing. I wonder if replenish in Vintage could make this tier 4 or something there.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2012 - 1:36AM #19
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I'm a Timmy/Johnny blue magic-player for more than 15 years and I still dislike this card.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 29, 2012 - 2:20AM #20
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Already I know I'm going to do far too much work in trying to break this card...
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