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12 months ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 5:03PM #1
jeremywin
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For example

It's my turn, and they have a Bloodline Keeper.  I use Brimstone Volley on it.  Can they declare a tap and use Keeper's effect to put out a vampire before Keeper gets destroyed?

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 5:05PM #2
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If the Vampire doesn't have summoning sickness, sure.

If there are restrictions on when you can use an ability, the card will say so . In the absence of anything saying otherwise, the default is that you can activate any ability any time you could cast an instant.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 5:09PM #3
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what if I vapor snag instead?
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 5:11PM #4
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what if I vapor snag instead?


No difference: bloodline keeper's ability can still be activated any time you could cast an instant.

If you want to counter an ability, you'll need to use something like Stifle

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 5:51PM #5
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Any activated ability can be used with instant timing ("instant speed" is a somewhat misleading way of putting this, which we generally try to avoid here - instants aren't "faster" than sorceries in any meaningful sense, they can just be played at a wider variety of times), unless it says otherwise, or the rules do. Its cost has absolutely no bearing on this - abilities aren't any different from ones that cost only mana, or ones that involve sacrificing things. They all work the same.

Notable exceptions - abilities that are used with sorcery timing - include Equip and the loyalty abilities of Planeswalkers. Other than that, if an ability is an exception to the usual timing rules, it will explicitly say so.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 6:57PM #6
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There's another exception: Mana abilities. They can be used even at times when one couldn't use an instant.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 26, 2012 - 11:21PM #7
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Jun 26, 2012 -- 6:57PM, ikegami wrote:

There's another exception: Mana abilities. They can be used even at times when one couldn't use an instant.



But still only when allowed: pay for a spell/ability, pay a "tax", etc...

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 27, 2012 - 8:25AM #8
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Zoidberg, what exactly do you mean by that?
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 27, 2012 - 8:28AM #9
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Jun 27, 2012 -- 8:25AM, Aandaaso wrote:

Zoidberg, what exactly do you mean by that?


activated abilities can be activated when you have priority unless otherwise stated

activated mana abilities can be activated when you have priority or when you are required to pay a mana cost
eg. you can tap your land for mana to pay for the Rings of Brighthearth trigger while it is resolving

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 27, 2012 - 8:28AM #10
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You can generate mana with mana abilities while a Mana Leak targeting your spell is resolving, or while you're casting a spell.

You can also generate mana with mana abilities whenever you have priority - the same times you could cast an instant.

But you can't generate mana with mana abilities whenever you want - like while your opponent is casting a spell.
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