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12 months ago ::
Jun 27, 2012 - 7:06PM
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Sucks to be a green character in Wizards' world...
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12 months ago ::
Jun 27, 2012 - 9:51PM
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OOOOOOMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!
That was awesome! hats off! Odric is kinda cool, and garruk's curse is one of the coolest plot designs. My only complaint about Odric is this-he's from a plane we were just on. We never heard of him. He's old enough to have been at this awhile. We should have heard of him.
Allow me to apologize in advance, but I've seen a similar sentiment expressed elsewhere, and I just really need to pick at this nit.
Over the course of a given block, through card names, flavor text and the various other sources of world-building, we will get exposed to about a treble handful of named characters. But planes contain millions of people (though my sense is that Innistrad is more like hundreds of thousands; it doesn't feel like a very big or populous plane). So, to me at least, it is very plausible that a plane contains many, many more important people (including several important enough to merit not only a name, but status as a Legendary Creature) than we could ever hope to run into in a single visit. Odric, Master Tactician  is apparently one of the important people we just didn't run into the first time around.
Anyway, this was fantastic. I've always loved little nuggets of Magic story like this. Can't wait for next week. 
Rules Advisor as of 03/01/2013 Zammm = Batman "Ability words are flavor text for Melvins." -- Fallingman
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12 months ago ::
Jun 27, 2012 - 9:59PM
#33
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Thank you, I enjoyed this story.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 28, 2012 - 5:50AM
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An impeccable story, but then it's Jenna Helland so this is not surprising. Whatever they're paying her it's not enough. Like gruulsmash I would have been a little happier if the first of these columns could have not been for the same plane we've been on for the past 9 months; closure is nice and all, but I'm more curious about what's going on in the entire rest of the multiverse apart from Innistrad, where we've been, and Ravnica, where we're going. Filling us in on the expanded universe is a way to show us that our interest in the fantasy will always be appreciated, even if we stop buying; talking only about the products that are now on store shelves or soon to appear there is just marketing. Still, at least it's really, really good marketing; that counts for a lot. I guess I have two points and a request;
SOOOOO much better than the way Zendikar, and Alara, and Mirrodin (the 2nd time around) all left us with complete uncertainty.
Not so complete if you read the novels, particularly the Zendikar one. I'll say no more to not spoil, but we do get at least some answers.
Please fill us in on what happened to Sorin. He was the poster child for the set (well, Lilianna was literally the original poster child...) and we don't know what happened to him. Simply put, "How dumb is that??"
Sorin's a planeswalker, so they probably won't provide any very definitive answers as to what happened to him; they don't want to be tied up in continuity issues now when Brand might come along three years from now and say "Sorin's focus-testing well among the new crop of Twilight fanfic writers that just graduated high school; he needs to be in this fall's block no matter how little sense that makes". With Garruk it's reasonable that they may go as far as "And then Avacyn cured his curse and he planeswalked away to parts unknown", since that leaves the character primed to reappear in a future block without complications. But we're not likely to see anything like "Edgar Markov, having discovered that Sorin is the reason Avacyn is hunting vampires to near-extinction, executes Sorin as a race traitor", because if they did that they wouldn't be able to sell anymore Bishie Sorin T-shirts to the Japanese.
My New Phyrexia Writing CreditsMy M12 Writing CreditsAs far as the benefit of the rest of Magic is concerned, gold cards in Legends were executed perfectly. They got all the excitement a designer could hope out of a splashy new mechanic without using up any of the valuable design space. Truly amazing.
--Aaron Forsythe's Random Card Comment on Kei Takahashi 
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12 months ago ::
Jun 28, 2012 - 3:45PM
#35
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An impeccable story, but then it's Jenna Helland so this is not surprising. Whatever they're paying her it's not enough. Like gruulsmash I would have been a little happier if the first of these columns could have not been for the same plane we've been on for the past 9 months; closure is nice and all, but I'm more curious about what's going on in the entire rest of the multiverse apart from Innistrad, where we've been, and Ravnica, where we're going. Filling us in on the expanded universe is a way to show us that our interest in the fantasy will always be appreciated, even if we stop buying; talking only about the products that are now on store shelves or soon to appear there is just marketing. Still, at least it's really, really good marketing; that counts for a lot.
I guess I have two points and a request;
SOOOOO much better than the way Zendikar, and Alara, and Mirrodin (the 2nd time around) all left us with complete uncertainty.
Not so complete if you read the novels, particularly the Zendikar one. I'll say no more to not spoil, but we do get at least some answers.
Please fill us in on what happened to Sorin. He was the poster child for the set (well, Lilianna was literally the original poster child...) and we don't know what happened to him. Simply put, "How dumb is that??"
Sorin's a planeswalker, so they probably won't provide any very definitive answers as to what happened to him; they don't want to be tied up in continuity issues now when Brand might come along three years from now and say "Sorin's focus-testing well among the new crop of Twilight fanfic writers that just graduated high school; he needs to be in this fall's block no matter how little sense that makes". With Garruk it's reasonable that they may go as far as "And then Avacyn cured his curse and he planeswalked away to parts unknown", since that leaves the character primed to reappear in a future block without complications. But we're not likely to see anything like "Edgar Markov, having discovered that Sorin is the reason Avacyn is hunting vampires to near-extinction, executes Sorin as a race traitor", because if they did that they wouldn't be able to sell anymore Bishie Sorin T-shirts to the Japanese.
i think what he meant is "what did sorin do during avr?" it's not necessarily sorin's conclusion, but rather his actions and why he leaves innistrad. Also I think Mirrodins loose ends are intentional. Will we ever return? Maybe, maybe not, but wizards kinda likes to keep these things up in the air.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 5:45AM
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I for one seriously hope we'll return to New Phyrexia, given that it had an entire block worth of creative generated for it (all of which I got to see while writing for NPH, and only a fraction of it was ever made public as far as I recall). An entire block set on a world of nothing but villains would be fascinating (granted that's not quite what we have, but for all intents and purposes it should be).
My New Phyrexia Writing CreditsMy M12 Writing CreditsAs far as the benefit of the rest of Magic is concerned, gold cards in Legends were executed perfectly. They got all the excitement a designer could hope out of a splashy new mechanic without using up any of the valuable design space. Truly amazing.
--Aaron Forsythe's Random Card Comment on Kei Takahashi
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12 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 11:16AM
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I know they like to leave things open, but some wrap-up would be nice. (For instance, I felt Alara was wrapped up okay, even though we don't really know what happened after the shards were reunited.... On the other hand, Elspeth's whole participation in the block was totally messed up with contradicting cards and web-comics  ). @Willpell Regarding Zendikar; I have read all the books (except the Scars one cuz I'm pretending it didn't happen), and it just left us hanging so much about... so much. And there's also the one web-story about Gideon showing up on Zendikar to help the citizens fight the Eldrazi but then nothing more about him. It's the same old thing that I know I just need to get over. I want this thing (MTG) done well flavor-wise cuz there's so much potential for awesomeness. But flavor doesn't make WOTC money. So I guess I should be grateful for whatever half-baked and half-finished stuff I get. Or stop caring. It is just a card-game, right?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 12:48PM
#38
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Apr 14, 2012
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I know they like to leave things open, but some wrap-up would be nice. (For instance, I felt Alara was wrapped up okay, even though we don't really know what happened after the shards were reunited.... On the other hand, Elspeth's whole participation in the block was totally messed up with contradicting cards and web-comics).
@Willpell Regarding Zendikar; I have read all the books (except the Scars one cuz I'm pretending it didn't happen), and it just left us hanging so much about... so much. And there's also the one web-story about Gideon showing up on Zendikar to help the citizens fight the Eldrazi but then nothing more about him.
It's the same old thing that I know I just need to get over. I want this thing (MTG) done well flavor-wise cuz there's so much potential for awesomeness. But flavor doesn't make WOTC money. So I guess I should be grateful for whatever half-baked and half-finished stuff I get. Or stop caring. It is just a card-game, right?
gideon went to ravnica, remember? it was in one of jenna's stf articles. (hint hint, rtr)
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12 months ago ::
Jun 29, 2012 - 12:57PM
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May 20, 2009
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Missed that one, I guess. I'll have to go back through all Jenna's stuff to see if I missed anything else. Any idea when that was?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 30, 2012 - 10:58AM
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I know they like to leave things open, but some wrap-up would be nice. (For instance, I felt Alara was wrapped up okay, even though we don't really know what happened after the shards were reunited.... On the other hand, Elspeth's whole participation in the block was totally messed up with contradicting cards and web-comics).
@Willpell Regarding Zendikar; I have read all the books (except the Scars one cuz I'm pretending it didn't happen), and it just left us hanging so much about... so much. And there's also the one web-story about Gideon showing up on Zendikar to help the citizens fight the Eldrazi but then nothing more about him.
It's the same old thing that I know I just need to get over. I want this thing (MTG) done well flavor-wise cuz there's so much potential for awesomeness. But flavor doesn't make WOTC money. So I guess I should be grateful for whatever half-baked and half-finished stuff I get. Or stop caring. It is just a card-game, right?
Or you could join the Expanded Multiverse project and make your own flavor? Seriously, you should check the project out. If you don't like what's being given, get involved on the boards here and help make something better.
Also, Gideon goes to Ravnica at the end of the very story you mentioned--the one for Near-Death Experience  .
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That's a big disingenous. Asking for a resolution to Sorin's activities on Innistrad doesn't mean killing him off. And we already know that Wizards is ok with changing characters for the sake of the story despite the restrictions that places on those characters. See: Garruk, Liliana, Venser, Tezzeret, arguably Sarkhan Vol...
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