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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 1:03PM #1
RaizielDragon
Date Joined: May 15, 2009
Posts: 891
I was inspired to make this deck by all of the denial and hate cards that seem to be so popular with everyone but me.

Whenever I build a deck, I include little to no hate cards (like destruction, counter spells, gaddock teeg, ethersworn canonist, etc.). I tend to have a play-and-let-play attitude.

However, I know that hate and control are popular, especially among tournament players, and understandably so. However, I'm a purely casual player, and all of my more competitive friends like to play their aggressive standard decks.

Don't get me wrong; I have a bit of an advantage when I build decks using vintage/legacy cards, but my two worst infractions are including scroll rack + land tax in my mono white soldier deck, and building a stasis deck that I hardly ever use.

So, when I'm trying play, and I get stuff like mana leaks and ethersworn canonists put up against me, I get a bit perturbed.

So rather than complain about it, I decided to focus that into a "Hate" deck.  I want it to do what it sounds like: hate on other people.

I think the main thing I want it to be able to do is board wipes. Full board wipes, including lands. If it resets the game (shuffles hands, graveyards, etc) and life totals, even better.

Problem is, not being the type of player to use much hate, I don't know where to start.  I know each color has it's wipe cards, but what are the best, and what color combination should I be looking at?

Any pointers on where I should start on building this deck? Doesn't even need a win condition.
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Yes, I killed your BBEG with his own lair: Show

Setting: Tomb with a perilous bridge and cliff 100 feet above a lava pit.

Mummy pops out of his sarcophagus, initiative:

Felix, Half-Elf Artificer: Twin Strike with crossbow.

Trump (ala Donald), Eladrin Warlord: Charges mummy with Opening Shove, pushing off the cliff.  Mummy fails saving throw, and falls into pit.

Sanshiro (ala Japanese "superhero" Segata), Minotaur Barbarian: Strength check to lift sarcophagus and carry to cliff.  Free action, drop sarcophagus into square above mummy.  Sarcophagus drops on mummy, shoving him further down into lava.

Mummy: proceeds to make a series of horrible athletics checks to swim and climb cliff.  Dies a horrible death with lava permeating every orifice.

Entire Party: Watches on in delight, faces alit with the glow of lava and flaming undead.



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I soap myself up, and turn up the hot water in the shower, so my sweat mixes with the soap, slickening my skin: +5 to grapple

I use my own legs as a shield since only upper-body hits matter: +5 defense

I use my teammates bodies to construct a vehicle for myself, and dual-wield their weapons because as long as I win, we all win: +10 attack, +10 defense

I completely ignore the enemy, their attacks, the devastating damage they are dealing to me and my team, and strike directly for their base, completely obliterating them, their way of life, and any chance they had at survival as a species: WIN

Ender: The Original CharOpper and Power Gamer.



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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 3:02PM #2
MTGBRIAN
Date Joined: Jun 8, 2010
Posts: 218
Nevinyrral's Disk

Man lands could be your win condition.  Creeping Tar Pit is in my favorite colors.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 3:06PM #3
VerdantForce
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It all depends on what kind of "hate" you really want but to me Black-White is the best color combination for board sweepers. It gives you access to Wrath of God , Armageddon , Damnation , Day of Judgment among many others. It also has some of the best spot removal in the game with Vindicate .

Now if you want to combine that with countermagic I suggest Black-Blue since blue is wonderful at countermagic with Counterspell , Cryptic Command , Dissipate , and Mana Leak among others. This combination still gives you access to Damnation and a few other mass removal spells along with fantastic spot removal in Diabolic Edict , Doom Blade , Dismember , Go For the Throat and many more.

Finally if you want Land Destruction you could go Black-Red which opens up the deck to Sinkhole , Rain of Tears , Stone Rain , and so much more. This combination also has more mass removal in red in the form of the likes of Pyroclasm and the like.

So I ask you what type of hate do you want?   

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 4:05PM #4
RaizielDragon
Date Joined: May 15, 2009
Posts: 891
Worldpurge , Sway of the Stars , All is Dust + Mycosynth Lattice , Epicenter , Armageddon , Jokulhaups .

Stuff like that. 
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Yes, I killed your BBEG with his own lair: Show

Setting: Tomb with a perilous bridge and cliff 100 feet above a lava pit.

Mummy pops out of his sarcophagus, initiative:

Felix, Half-Elf Artificer: Twin Strike with crossbow.

Trump (ala Donald), Eladrin Warlord: Charges mummy with Opening Shove, pushing off the cliff.  Mummy fails saving throw, and falls into pit.

Sanshiro (ala Japanese "superhero" Segata), Minotaur Barbarian: Strength check to lift sarcophagus and carry to cliff.  Free action, drop sarcophagus into square above mummy.  Sarcophagus drops on mummy, shoving him further down into lava.

Mummy: proceeds to make a series of horrible athletics checks to swim and climb cliff.  Dies a horrible death with lava permeating every orifice.

Entire Party: Watches on in delight, faces alit with the glow of lava and flaming undead.



Original CharOpper Show


I soap myself up, and turn up the hot water in the shower, so my sweat mixes with the soap, slickening my skin: +5 to grapple

I use my own legs as a shield since only upper-body hits matter: +5 defense

I use my teammates bodies to construct a vehicle for myself, and dual-wield their weapons because as long as I win, we all win: +10 attack, +10 defense

I completely ignore the enemy, their attacks, the devastating damage they are dealing to me and my team, and strike directly for their base, completely obliterating them, their way of life, and any chance they had at survival as a species: WIN

Ender: The Original CharOpper and Power Gamer.



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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 4:08PM #5
RaizielDragon
Date Joined: May 15, 2009
Posts: 891
Dovescape + Humility + Night of Souls' Betrayal

Living Plane + Night of Souls' Betrayal
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Yes, I killed your BBEG with his own lair: Show

Setting: Tomb with a perilous bridge and cliff 100 feet above a lava pit.

Mummy pops out of his sarcophagus, initiative:

Felix, Half-Elf Artificer: Twin Strike with crossbow.

Trump (ala Donald), Eladrin Warlord: Charges mummy with Opening Shove, pushing off the cliff.  Mummy fails saving throw, and falls into pit.

Sanshiro (ala Japanese "superhero" Segata), Minotaur Barbarian: Strength check to lift sarcophagus and carry to cliff.  Free action, drop sarcophagus into square above mummy.  Sarcophagus drops on mummy, shoving him further down into lava.

Mummy: proceeds to make a series of horrible athletics checks to swim and climb cliff.  Dies a horrible death with lava permeating every orifice.

Entire Party: Watches on in delight, faces alit with the glow of lava and flaming undead.



Original CharOpper Show


I soap myself up, and turn up the hot water in the shower, so my sweat mixes with the soap, slickening my skin: +5 to grapple

I use my own legs as a shield since only upper-body hits matter: +5 defense

I use my teammates bodies to construct a vehicle for myself, and dual-wield their weapons because as long as I win, we all win: +10 attack, +10 defense

I completely ignore the enemy, their attacks, the devastating damage they are dealing to me and my team, and strike directly for their base, completely obliterating them, their way of life, and any chance they had at survival as a species: WIN

Ender: The Original CharOpper and Power Gamer.



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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 6:03PM #6
VerdantForce
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Jun 24, 2012 -- 4:05PM, RaizielDragon wrote:

Worldpurge , Sway of the Stars , All is Dust + Mycosynth Lattice , Epicenter , Armageddon , Jokulhaups .

Stuff like that. 





Why not try a heavy artifact build centered around Painter's Servant and All is Dust . Everything is colored, even lands, so for 7 mana you blow up everything. You could really irritate someone with that duo especially if you have the mana acceleration of Sol Ring , Tron, Cloudpost, however, the only thing missing is a win condition. 

Left to itself, nature overflows any container, overthrows any restriction, and overreaches any boundary.
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I am White/Black
Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today!
Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 6:30PM #7
RaizielDragon
Date Joined: May 15, 2009
Posts: 891
Two deck ideas so far:

2 x Karn Liberated
2 x Lich's mirror
4 x Worldpurge
4 x Armageddon
4 x Wrath of God
4 x Reverse the Sands
4 x Thunder Totem
4 x Crucible of Worlds
4 x Marble Diamond
4 x Elixir of Immortality
4 x Flagstones of Trokair
20 x Plains


and

4 x Painter's Servant
4 x All is Dust
4 x Sol Ring
4 x Nevinyrral's Disk
4 x Darksteel Forge
4 x Karn Liberated
4 x Dreamstone Hedron
4 x Tower of Fortunes
4 x Elixir of Immortality
4 x Urza's Tower
4 x Urza's Power Plant
4 x Urza's Mine
4 x Cloudpost
4 x Glimmerpost
4 x Vesuva
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Yes, I killed your BBEG with his own lair: Show

Setting: Tomb with a perilous bridge and cliff 100 feet above a lava pit.

Mummy pops out of his sarcophagus, initiative:

Felix, Half-Elf Artificer: Twin Strike with crossbow.

Trump (ala Donald), Eladrin Warlord: Charges mummy with Opening Shove, pushing off the cliff.  Mummy fails saving throw, and falls into pit.

Sanshiro (ala Japanese "superhero" Segata), Minotaur Barbarian: Strength check to lift sarcophagus and carry to cliff.  Free action, drop sarcophagus into square above mummy.  Sarcophagus drops on mummy, shoving him further down into lava.

Mummy: proceeds to make a series of horrible athletics checks to swim and climb cliff.  Dies a horrible death with lava permeating every orifice.

Entire Party: Watches on in delight, faces alit with the glow of lava and flaming undead.



Original CharOpper Show


I soap myself up, and turn up the hot water in the shower, so my sweat mixes with the soap, slickening my skin: +5 to grapple

I use my own legs as a shield since only upper-body hits matter: +5 defense

I use my teammates bodies to construct a vehicle for myself, and dual-wield their weapons because as long as I win, we all win: +10 attack, +10 defense

I completely ignore the enemy, their attacks, the devastating damage they are dealing to me and my team, and strike directly for their base, completely obliterating them, their way of life, and any chance they had at survival as a species: WIN

Ender: The Original CharOpper and Power Gamer.



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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 7:15PM #8
RaizielDragon
Date Joined: May 15, 2009
Posts: 891
Or this:

4 x Mycosynth Lattice
4 x Sol Ring
4 x Nevinyrral's Disk
4 x Darksteel Forge
4 x Karn Liberated
4 x Temple Bell
4 x Dreamstone Hedron
4 x Tower of Fortunes
4 x Elixir of Immortality
4 x Urza's Tower
4 x Urza's Power Plant
4 x Urza's Mine
4 x Cloudpost
4 x Glimmerpost
4 x Vesuva
Sig Show


Yes, I killed your BBEG with his own lair: Show

Setting: Tomb with a perilous bridge and cliff 100 feet above a lava pit.

Mummy pops out of his sarcophagus, initiative:

Felix, Half-Elf Artificer: Twin Strike with crossbow.

Trump (ala Donald), Eladrin Warlord: Charges mummy with Opening Shove, pushing off the cliff.  Mummy fails saving throw, and falls into pit.

Sanshiro (ala Japanese "superhero" Segata), Minotaur Barbarian: Strength check to lift sarcophagus and carry to cliff.  Free action, drop sarcophagus into square above mummy.  Sarcophagus drops on mummy, shoving him further down into lava.

Mummy: proceeds to make a series of horrible athletics checks to swim and climb cliff.  Dies a horrible death with lava permeating every orifice.

Entire Party: Watches on in delight, faces alit with the glow of lava and flaming undead.



Original CharOpper Show


I soap myself up, and turn up the hot water in the shower, so my sweat mixes with the soap, slickening my skin: +5 to grapple

I use my own legs as a shield since only upper-body hits matter: +5 defense

I use my teammates bodies to construct a vehicle for myself, and dual-wield their weapons because as long as I win, we all win: +10 attack, +10 defense

I completely ignore the enemy, their attacks, the devastating damage they are dealing to me and my team, and strike directly for their base, completely obliterating them, their way of life, and any chance they had at survival as a species: WIN

Ender: The Original CharOpper and Power Gamer.



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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 7:30PM #9
Beniwiwi
Date Joined: Jun 24, 2010
Posts: 604
If you know the color they'll play, Justice , Drought , Stench of Evil , Conversion , Karma , Tsunami , Boil , Flashfires  , ...

Try those, they're really about "hate".
My decks, mostly casuals, but some I use online with some small changes:

http://www.mtgvault.com/Profile.aspx?UserID=91484
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 7:42PM #10
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Date Joined: Jul 22, 2011
Posts: 1,307
Hate = POX.

Look up a Legacy/Vintage style POX deck's full of Strip Mine , Sinkhole 's etc..  
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