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Switch to Forum Live View Everyone talks about 60 cards... why not 61?
7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 4:47PM #91
thedevilwuster
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To give a callback to an earlier statement, why indeed do these 100 card decks seem to get perfect draws while I sit with a 60 card deck, god hand and get mana flooded/screwed and plug up my ears before the steam makes the house too humid.
Must be some zen question that really has no answer.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 4:50PM #92
minddrifter
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LOL devil, if you find an answer to this conundrum I'd be happy to hear you out.  I have no idea, I just know some nights 1 or 2 drinks doesn't cut it, lol.  "Damn worhtless DotP all mana all day!!!  That's it, I'm heading to the liquor store!"
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 4:51PM #93
monk1410
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I an on my phone and can't be bothered to out the maths up. The point is that mana is not the reason to keep to 60 cards, it is so that you hit your best cards more consistently.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 4:57PM #94
minddrifter
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Mainly, you're right, its about hitting cards more consistantly, at the same time....you hit cards more consitantly because you don't have 70+ cards and more blocks of mana/spells AS WELL as not putting in more spells than you need.  You're not wrong in the sense of what you say is true, you're wrong in trying to say that I'm wrong about the other equation of the battle you seem to think just isn't there when it really is there.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 5:34PM #95
Selaphane
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Nov 11, 2012 -- 2:19PM, minddrifter wrote:

If you wanna play with 70 cards that's your decision...but it will run into trouble more often than something around 60.  This whole "well in 2hg or ffa" argument really isn't a very good argument as any deck has more time in those scenarios.  The fact is if you run 70+ card decks you are going to run into more problems under any format.  Sure you may have more time in 2hg to hope you don't draw another land, but I'd rather cut my chances of 12 mana in a row in any situation, whether or not I have more time to build.  Not to mention if your partner is screwed too, then you are probably not gonna be the one to get your team out of the whole drawing from 70 as opposed to 60 cards.

I think what some people seem to forget is when you start getting much past 60 cards (like I said, up to 64 might not be too bad) you start increasing your chances of running into "blocks" of mana or "blocks" of cards w/o mana.   Running 70+ cards is gonna increase chances by a decent amount (I'm not crunching numbers here) of drawing what you don't need a lot more often.  This fact does not change under any format.  If you want your deck to have options, adding cards isn't the way to go, using 2 as opposed to 3 of something here and there is what should be done.  As someone else said, if you don't stop at 60 or 61 where do you stop?  You can always find a reason add "just one more card."

But hey, if people want to argue that 70+ is still good then have at it.  You're wrong and hfgl.  In the end, it doesn't matter as long as you are having fun, right?




I never stated it was better, but in 2HG, you can't deny that it can definitely be viable, at least with AW. If you feel like running cards you hardly ever get a chance to run, 2HG is the place to do that. So yes, I do quite enjoy playing with large decks as it gives you more variety than usual, I play this game purely for fun, I play ranked 2HG with random people 95% of the time because I just don't care, I want to have a good time, hell most of the time I play I'm hardly sober Yell

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 5:56PM #96
minddrifter
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I think definitely viable is a bit of an overstatement, but whatever you feel is viable is up to you...  I feel sorry for the random partners playing with some drunk guy with a 70+ card deck, lol.  I've played drunk on more than once occasion myself, lol.  I think your statement speaks for itself though, that you could really care less either way.  While I'm sure your deck works decently (especially if your random partner is good) it would probably work better more often if it was a lower count, but if you don't care it doesn't matter. ;P  Nothing wrong playing for fun, but 70 will be more unstable than 60 every time.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 7:12PM #97
thedevilwuster
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I think only AW should allowed to run 100 cards, and only if they're my partner, and have Wild Pair on the battlefield.
All other 100 card users should be shot multiple times at close range
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 7:12PM #98
thedevilwuster
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I think only AW should allowed to run 100 cards, and only if they're my partner, and have Wild Pair on the battlefield.
All other 100 card users should be shot multiple times at close range
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 8:17PM #99
antkour
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If you run more than 60 cards for AW, it decreases your odds of drawing wild pair, so I'm not buying this argument
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 8:53PM #100
Selaphane
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Nov 11, 2012 -- 8:17PM, antkour wrote:

If you run more than 60 cards for AW, it decreases your odds of drawing wild pair, so I'm not buying this argument



Just to be clear, I never stated it was better, or more consistent. Obviously it's going to be more prone to issues, but it works if built right, and it's a nice change of pace. Variety is fun IMO and I like to change things up once in a while, it's fun being able to pack more cards in your deck.

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