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12 months ago ::
Jun 22, 2012 - 7:54PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 26, 2011
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What Tiers do you think the decks are in?
Great Tier:
1: Garruk - The Ramp is great, the early Creatures are powerful, the late Creatures each end the game by themselves almost all the time.
Good Tier:
2: Jace - The Mill comes fast and pays off great with lots of Cards counting opposing Graveyard size.
3: Talrand - The spells are already powerful and Card advantage is abundant but there are Cards that make even more Card Advantage per Spell and this deck has access to Extra Turns.
4: Krenko - Tons of agression and an abundance of Creatures, this deck will win before several of the decks get going.
Meh Tier:
5: Chandra - Lots of Control and potential Card advantage, this deck does not always manage to get going.
6: Odric - There are lots of good Creatures but your Creatures have nothing to get lorded.
7: Liliana - With a good amount of Control, this deck has no finishing power.
Bad Tier:
8: Yeva - Lots of Creatures are largely inefficient and have unnessesary Drawbacks and this deck rarely comes together without drawing Yeva.
9: Nefarox - Lots of Cards with Exalted are overpriced and this deck lacks the extra-efficient Creatures that the other decks have.
10: Ajani - This deck is just terrible since lots of cards gain life although very few cards take it as an advantage.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 22, 2012 - 8:09PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 13, 2010
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Seems too early to discuss these things, but I feel like my tier separation is going to be a "Great" tier and then a "Not as Great, but Still Quite Good" tier.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 22, 2012 - 8:24PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 20, 2010
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Seems too early to discuss these things, but I feel like my tier separation is going to be a "Great" tier and then a "Not as Great, but Still Quite Good" tier.
I'd say it's definitely too early to determine the tiers, I doubt many people have all the decks unlocked yet and not much serious online play has been happening yet. The first couple weeks is usually trial and error and experimentation with the new meta. I do feel like the Goblin deck is a bit too quick for the meta though, it seems to faceroll most decks pretty quickly.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 22, 2012 - 8:35PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 29, 2012
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I think there are only 2 tiers: "Decks I like" and "Decks I don't like, but are strong too".
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12 months ago ::
Jun 22, 2012 - 9:16PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 14, 2011
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Way too early for serious tier consideration. I haven't even used all of the decks yet. I think this meta will be determined by match-ups mostly, as all the decks are strong in their own way.
Take the Ajani deck. It is a strong deck, lots of powerful creatures and synergy, but it gets shut down easy by removal, i.e. Chandra and Liliana.
Jace and Talrand are easily swarmed by Krenko and Odric.
Yeva is an amazing deck and I have no idea how you can say its creatures are "largely inefficient" when almost all of them affect the board position just by entering the battlefield.
Garruk cannot protect his big threats either without greaves out.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 22, 2012 - 9:21PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 13, 2010
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I think this meta will be determined by match-ups mostly, as all the decks are strong in their own way.
Yeah, and because of this, I think it makes any tier listings we could come up with feel potentially amorphous. One deck can be good against a handful of decks, but then just as easily be weak against some others. Add in the extra dimension of potential "metagaming" with the increased unlocks, some decks could fine tune themselves to turn their perceived weak match ups into good ones or vice versa just by running some combination of cards. Although, I'm sure as the masses start playing more, we'll have lists that are largely optimized in a general sense.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 22, 2012 - 9:43PM
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7: Liliana - With a good amount of Control, this deck has no finishing power.
What? No finishing power? Are we pretending that Avatar of Woe  and all those big demons don't exist?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 22, 2012 - 10:05PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 16, 2011
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On what planet is Ajani's deck last in the tier list? I hate this deck, and that's how I know it's so powerful, because I play it every, single, game. I can't remember the last game I played where someone wasn't using it, and in 2HG it's a god. Combine it with Mill and it's nearly unbeatable. With cards that can get you to 50 health by turn 6 and after that it's doubling ever turn. Add in a card that makes it so if you're over 40 you win. Yea, it's nuts.
But as long as I'm being biased, Goblin deck is the top of top tiers because science.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 22, 2012 - 10:17PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 13, 2010
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Is the goblin deck the fastest of them all? If anything, that should make it so that it sets the pace of the format. If your deck can't beat that deck, it's not worth running because theoretically everyone could play Goblins and beat you. Luckily, a lot of decks seem capable of running against goblins and winning. Where does that put goblins then? High tier just because it's like the "deck to beat" in a format design sense? Or high/low based on what everyone else is running? (this goes back to my amorphous metagame comment earlier I guess)
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12 months ago ::
Jun 22, 2012 - 10:22PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 21, 2012
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What Tiers do you think the decks are in?
9: Nefarox - Lots of Cards with Exalted are overpriced and this deck lacks the extra-efficient Creatures that the other decks have.
I cannot disagree with this more. I play Nefarox almost exclusively with fantastic success online. Cheap creatures plus heaps of exalted more often then not nets me the win. I agree with Bishop in that deck rating is based on the match up its going against.
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