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5 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2013 - 10:48PM #601
thedevilwuster
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Technically by choosing the Gouger to go first  the Liege was not hit by the spell.

Edit: Someone correct me if I'm wrong as I don't know all of the rules but this is what I think happened.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2013 - 11:05PM #602
falclon
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But it is "whenever" in the Ashenmoor Liege card description.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2013 - 1:00AM #603
monk1410
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It should trigger, you TARGET the liege with the spell. Just like when i shock it and it gets countered, i still lose 4 life just fir targeting it.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2013 - 2:28AM #604
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So I should report this as a bug somewhere?

Also - in another game with Grinning Malice opponent cast Reanimate on Demigod of Revenge that was in his graveyard. That Demigod appeared on the battlefield, but another one (that was also in opponent's graveyard) didn't. Did it happen because opponent actually cast Reanimate instead of Demigod?
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2013 - 2:46AM #605
monk1410
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Yes that one is not a bug as the demigod was put into play and not cast.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2013 - 5:16AM #606
dj_btrue
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Jan 10, 2013 -- 11:05PM, falclon wrote:

But it is "whenever" in the Ashenmoor Liege card description.


You definately should have lost four life because the spell you cast has you "target" two creatures.
I would drop a post in the bug thread if I were you.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2013 - 6:27AM #607
thedevilwuster
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My point was that since it's a spell that causes you to make choices and doesn't target the Liege directly, the game is handling it just like that. So, no life loss as the Liege wasn't a target.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2013 - 7:19AM #608
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Anyone knows howl Prince of Thralls works with cards like Day of Judgement ? Does he trigger when other 5 critters on the field die to Day of Judgement for example despite that it dies too? I had Thrallls in play (2HG) and 1 of my opponents cleared a critter filled field with it and all that I got was 1 critter despite my opponents not having enough life to pay for the other critters they owned.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2013 - 8:30AM #609
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Jan 11, 2013 -- 7:19AM, lostaname wrote:

Anyone knows howl Prince of Thralls works with cards like Day of Judgment ? Does he trigger when other 5 critters on the field die to Day of Judgment for example despite that it dies too? I had Thrallls in play (2HG) and 1 of my opponents cleared a critter filled field with it and all that I got was 1 critter despite my opponents not having enough life to pay for the other critters they owned.



I've seen this work OK, and it certainly should work no different than a dead Blood Artist .  What else could have messed with it?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2013 - 8:47AM #610
sixty4half
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Jan 11, 2013 -- 7:19AM, lostaname wrote:

Anyone knows howl Prince of Thralls works with cards like Day of Judgement ? Does he trigger when other 5 critters on the field die to Day of Judgement for example despite that it dies too? I had Thrallls in play (2HG) and 1 of my opponents cleared a critter filled field with it and all that I got was 1 critter despite my opponents not having enough life to pay for the other critters they owned.




You say "critter filled field."  Were they tokens?  Tokens will be exiled after they go to the graveyard and then a check is made which discovers that the token is not a card and it is removed from the game.  I'd bet this is what happened, is that you got their token generator and the rest of their creatures all got removed from the game.


Edit: Also, you say your opponent cleared the board, so it sounds more like you had board control at the time.  Was the field littered with critters that belonged to your teammate?  If so, Thralls only gives you permanents your opponents control.

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