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4 months ago  ::  Jan 21, 2013 - 6:49PM #1381
dkb7557
Date Joined: Jan 21, 2013
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You're right it's the legendary rule, thanks for clearing that up
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 12:41AM #1382
Mad_WoodElemental
Date Joined: Jan 17, 2013
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Yay, thought so...Dont think I will ever get used to it though, haha.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 1:54AM #1383
robvalue
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2003
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Jan 21, 2013 -- 2:34PM, thedevilwuster wrote:

+1.
Has to be legendary.
Welcome back Rob.

Thanks for the deckbuilder sticky.




Thank No problem.

I still check the forum regularly, just there's often not much I can say not being an active player in 13. But I'm still here to support the community if I can! There seems to be way more rules guys around these parts now so usually a question has been answered before I have even read it

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 6:03AM #1384
Eternal21
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Cast Natural Order , sacrificed a creature, then the opponent countered my spell.  I'm guessing it's legit, but it still sucked losing a creature and a spell for nothing.

EDIT: The text on DotP card is different from the one in Gatherer.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 6:50AM #1385
puzzledmint
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Jan 22, 2013 -- 6:03AM, Eternal21 wrote:

EDIT: The text on DotP card is different from the one in Gatherer.




What platform/language are you playing?

The text in the english-language PC version matches the oracle text word-for-word.

And, yes, sacrificing a creature is part of the cost to cast Natural Order . You don't get a refund on any part of the cost when a spell is countered.

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 7:05AM #1386
robvalue
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Jan 22, 2013 -- 6:03AM, Eternal21 wrote:

Cast Natural Order , sacrificed a creature, then the opponent countered my spell.  I'm guessing it's legit, but it still sucked losing a creature and a spell for nothing.

EDIT: The text on DotP card is different from the one in Gatherer.




They may be using the Portal wording, a beginner's set. Any cards printed in that set use heavily simplified language that isn't always rules accurate. Unfortunate!

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 7:51AM #1387
Eternal21
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Jan 22, 2013 -- 6:50AM, puzzledmint wrote:

Jan 22, 2013 -- 6:03AM, Eternal21 wrote:

EDIT: The text on DotP card is different from the one in Gatherer.




What platform/language are you playing?




PS3, English.

Here are the two cards, if the Gatherer version, would save me from losing a creature, because you only need to sacrifice one after casting the spell.

PS3:


Gatherer:

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 8:04AM #1388
puzzledmint
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That's not the Gatherer version, that's the Portal version.

THIS is the Gatherer version:


You always use the Oracle text, regardless of what's printed on the physical card.
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 9:15AM #1389
robvalue
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Yeah, the Gatherer is showing the Portal card as an example of a printed card. But as puzzled says, it's the text on the right of the screen you need to read.

What you have posted there Eternal is a Visions version, looks like that's what the game is using. Back in those times they had a different way of writing additional costs to spells. Anything before the colon in spell test was an additional cost to the spell, just like anything before the colon of an activated ability is a cost for that ability.

That way of doing things was phased out a while ago and replaced by the clearer "as an additional cost to cast..."
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4 months ago  ::  Jan 22, 2013 - 9:20AM #1390
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and apparently Agony Warp is NOT bugged when the AI casts it.  *grumble*.
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