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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 12:51PM #11
LordUrsus
Date Joined: Feb 14, 2011
Posts: 185
If you want to grief the living (!) out of his green deck, only to watch his face, cast your visage upon these gems:

Perish
Acid Rain

Though sadly, that will just spiral into a series of unwanted events. Casual play is supposed to be fun. Enlighten him about said rule frictions, and see what happens. Perfection is an illusion, and as such, I believe there is no "Most broken deck ever", (I might be wrong) but those kinds of decks that claim to be are by type uninteractable, boring and far too narrow-minded.

Primordial Hydra wastes their turn when stumbling over a Doom Blade if they tap out for it, tokens are easily dispatchable by means such as Consume the Meek or Wrath of God . From what I gather from his deck, it seems amateurish and meant to be fun for him. What is fun is a question of perspective. Some like having to play around/with Counterspell , others like infinite combos such as Deceiver Exarch / Splinter Twin and others like unconsistent, flavour-loaded thematic decks.

Now, if you want to show him how to control a game, why not make a black-centered control deck? You can easily massacre his creatures with your creature removal, make sure he never gets back on his feet with discard such as Shrine of Limitless Power or Mind Sludge and ultimately finish him off with a Sheoldred, Whispering One or a sinister Exsanguinate fueled by Caged Sun or the like.

Good luck.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 5:10PM #12
AzazelWandering
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2011
Posts: 1,404

Jun 19, 2012 -- 9:17PM, sylverbladedwyngs wrote:

I want to build the ultimate broken deck. I'll call it "Vengence." Yes. It will have a name. Thing is, I'm a noob and have no idea where to start. Any suggestion is a good suggestion. Fire away! (Please an thank you :3 )


I feel that the deck you described doesn't warrant the kind of specific hate some Posters have been recommending, so I encourage you to build a solid general deck instead. Mainlky because, if this guy leaves the playgroup (or stops playing the deck) then you are now stuck with a highly specific hate deck.


Here is a budget list of (something resembling) Affinity:
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2 Buried Ruin
4 DarkSteel Citadel
4 Sulfurous Springs
4 Seat Of The Synod
4 Vault Of Whispers
4 Great Furnace

4 Memnite
4 Ornithopter
4 Signal Pest
4 Arcbound Worker
4 Vault Skirge
4 Atog
2 Master Of Etherium

2 SpringLeaf Drum
4 Galvanic Blast
4 Cranial Plating

This is $58.32 at CoolStuffInc (not including Shipping or Basic Lands). The Artifact Lands are easily the most expensive thing here and while they are synergystic, they could be cut without damaging the deck too much.


Here is a budget Ally list:
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 5:46PM #13
sylverbladedwyngs
Date Joined: Jun 17, 2012
Posts: 38
See, the problem with him is that... This was a random deck he put together in ten minutes at my boyfriend's house, right before they came in and we had a huge doom match. (The three of us like to play Magic together.) ALL of his decks are like that. (He runs decks of every color, a LOT of Planeswalkers, Eldarazi, everything unfair against beginners.) They ALL have cards that do rediculous things like get him up to 300 health, have a creature with 400/400, etc... That's his play style. He has thousands of cards.

I spent $28 at a store today and got help from the employees to build a decent deck against him, and it is this:

11 x forest
11 x plains
2 x gavony township

Creatures:
1 x wolfir silverheart
3 x borderland ranger
2 x gideon's lawkeeper
1 x timberland guide
2 x acidic slime
2 x Krond the Dawn-Clad
2 x Herald of War
2 x Doomed Traveler
2 x Elite Inquisitor

Sorcery:
2 x Rampant Growth
3 x travel preparations
3 x Austere Command
1 x Day of Judgement

Enchantments:
1 x Spirit Mantle
2 x Oblivion Ring
2 x Honor of the Pure

Artifacts:
3 x Angel's Tomb
1 x Bladed Bracer
1 x Scroll of Avacyn
1 x Quicksilver Amulet

Instants:
2 x Righteous Blow

What do you guys think?
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 6:15PM #14
Cogminded
Date Joined: Nov 24, 2011
Posts: 1,094
Herald of War seems fairly unnecessary in this deck.  It has a high mana cost for what it is and won't really reduce the cost of anything except for the next [c]Herald of War .

You also only have 1 aura to attach to Krond the Dawn-Clad which leaves him as a difficult to cast, albeit strong card.

Righteous Blow is ok, but situational. 

Quicksilver Amulet only has a few real targets in this deck, it can get a couple of cards out for 1 mana less but that feels rather underwhelming.

Other than than, I dislike Timberland Guide .

that is a brief look over, and I apologise if it seems overly critical.  I think that with a few tweaks this could be a strong deck, did you say that you have an angel deck?
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 7:41PM #15
kojixito
Date Joined: Jun 22, 2011
Posts: 102
I played a non official tournament with some guys at my local card shop and he guy who hosts uses a deck that can mill your entire deck on turn 2 the guy who came second didnt even bother playing him  he used a brain freeze combo where he'd use high tide then Cloud  of Faeries and other cards to shuffle hand and graveyard back into deck he'd keep doing this till he cast enough spells so that brain freeze would mill enough cards to be your entire deck if you look up high tide on card kingdom you can see alot of cards he used (shows how original the deck is) and maby peice that deck together.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 8:38PM #16
sylverbladedwyngs
Date Joined: Jun 17, 2012
Posts: 38
@cogminded, yes I do have an angel deck. Should I stick in some Seraph of Dawn for a liferamp? I have...
2 x Archangel
2 x Voice of the Provinces
1 x Angel of Glory's Rise
2 x Serra Angel
4 x Seraph of Dawn
3 x Cathedral Sanctifier
3 x Angelic Wall
2 x Emancipation Angel
1 x Seraph Sanctuary
1 x Goldnight Redeemer
1 x Defy Death
1 x Aegis Angel
1 x Goldnight Commander
and I could add this, even though it's not an angel:
1 x natural end
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 9:24PM #17
sylverbladedwyngs
Date Joined: Jun 17, 2012
Posts: 38
@LordUrsus

Your suggestions are amazing, but sadly, I'm the one running a green-white deck and he runs decks of all colors, with a particular fondness of black cards ahaha.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 9:30PM #18
Vektor480
Date Joined: Apr 5, 2008
Posts: 18,653

Jun 21, 2012 -- 5:46PM, sylverbladedwyngs wrote:

everything unfair against beginners.



There is no such a thing. Sure, some decks can be more complex to understand and to play with, but it just seems he's playing combo decks and there's nothing unfair in that. If he were using more expensive cards, it could seem even more unfair, but still, he bought them and so can you. If the strategy he's using is solid, it's up to you to break it. You shouldn't try to bring his powerlevel down, you should bring yours up, like you are currently trying.

Also this:

Jun 21, 2012 -- 8:24AM, Cogminded wrote:

Ask him for a breakdown on how it works, I'm curious as there are several points that seem to be fundamental to how you describe it that really really really DON'T work, as vektor stated.


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Jan 14, 2012 -- 5:42PM, Vektor480 wrote:

I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".


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Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:28PM, Qmark wrote:

Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:15PM, ROBRAM89 wrote:

Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.

Now, now.
1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".


Oct 11, 2011 -- 9:43PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Oh, it's a brilliant plan.  You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat.  Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit.  He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee.  "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk.  He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy.  He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right.  Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms.
"THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!"

And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.


Feb 25, 2012 -- 2:54PM, Mown wrote:

Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.


Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:47PM, Qmark wrote:

Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:36PM, SleetFox wrote:

This thread has gotten creepy.  XP

Really?
Really?

The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?


Jun 26, 2011 -- 5:52AM, MrQuizzles wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:59AM, Mown wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:44AM, skeindubh wrote:


4 tropical island
4 savannah
4 bayou
4 taiga
4 savannah


Nice mana base.
Not really.



Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.


May 2, 2011 -- 8:18AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.


Apr 3, 2011 -- 1:39AM, DrWorm wrote:

Apr 3, 2011 -- 12:02AM, crazysamaritan wrote:

Of course, the best use [of tolaria west ] is transmuting for the real Tolaria.



Absolutely.  I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria , and I was finally able win my first game.


Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:17PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

WOAH

wait wait wait

Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated



OH MY GOD


Nov 22, 2011 -- 3:52PM, Pontiac wrote:

The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 8:55PM, Glasir wrote:

The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.


Jan 21, 2011 -- 7:11AM, Qmark wrote:


Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available.
"No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.


Jul 10, 2012 -- 11:28AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.



Aug 3, 2011 -- 6:46PM, ChaosLight wrote:

You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 7:30PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Oct 10, 2011 -- 5:53PM, Rubik wrote:

You just... Vektor it.


That's the answer to everything.


Jan 17, 2011 -- 6:16PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

Jan 17, 2011 -- 5:58PM, Ragnarokio wrote:


I think the problem is that you don't exist.


This would sound great out of context!


Dec 19, 2011 -- 9:07PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.


Aug 4, 2011 -- 2:15PM, Mown wrote:

Aug 4, 2011 -- 1:45PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:


I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.


You make it sound like that's still not the case.


Jan 4, 2011 -- 3:04AM, Niklor wrote:

Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.


Doug Beyer:

But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?


Mar 20, 2012 -- 1:32PM, Terti wrote:

Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :


Aug 15, 2011 -- 8:06PM, Veslfen wrote:

to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.


Aug 1, 2011 -- 12:35AM, Ragnarokio wrote:

when in rome RAPE AND PILLAGE


Jan 31, 2012 -- 11:23AM, TchainT wrote:

I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.


Dymecoar:

Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets.  You can do it...but why?


Omega137:

Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right."
Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"


Zigeif777:

Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.


Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:29AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:09AM, quadibloc wrote:

It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf , Darksteel Colossus , or Platinum Angel . It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus , Mox Sapphire , and Time Walk .


Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.


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Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:06PM, NeoMint wrote:

I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...


They can when they're using lightsabers !


Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:59AM, Sebanovich wrote:

Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:54AM, Long_Con wrote:

My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days.  We named it Grixis, but it died. 


Unearth it!


Jan 15, 2011 -- 8:07PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

I'm a Da Vinci Neurok.





And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you?
Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now.
Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 9:35PM #19
Cogminded
Date Joined: Nov 24, 2011
Posts: 1,094
Ok I am seeing something along the lines of:

3 x Borderland Ranger
2 x Herald of War
4 x Avacyn's Pilgrim
(look into getting them from your shop, theyre perfect for this deck, and as a common should be easy)
4 x Seraph of Dawn
1 x Angel of Glory's Rise
1 x Aegis Angel
2 x Doomed Traveller
2 x Elite Inquisitor
2 x Krond the Dawn-Clad

1 x Day of Judgement
3 x Austere Command
2 x Rampant Growth 

2 x Honor of the Pure
4 x Spirit Mantle
2 x Oblivion Ring

13 x Plains
9 x Forest
2 x Gavony Township


This is keeping as closely to possible with what you have.  Will it be perfect? No.  But it SHOULD work.

Ideal start to look at would be:

T1 Forest - Avacyn's Pilgrim
T2 Plains - Borderland Ranger OR Rampant Growth + Avacyn's Pilgrim / Doomed Traveller
T3 Whatever angel you can afford

Make sure you have some form of ramp creature in your opening hand, whether it is a ranger or a pilgrim.  You need that speed.

There are improvements that could be made, but this is the foundation for it really.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 21, 2012 - 10:11PM #20
sylverbladedwyngs
Date Joined: Jun 17, 2012
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@cogminded
That deck does look like a very good idea! I was trying my best ti stick to things that'll give me a lot of life though ahaha. A lot of
life fast, and spells that exile my opponent's cards.

If my current deck fails, by all means, I'll try that one

If there's any really nice cards to increase life and add +1/+1 (or more, preferably +x/+x with x being a mana cost) to all creatures, I'd love to know.

I feel like I should have more instants, too... Instants are such a bitch to deal with, so I wanna kill him with them.
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