Okay. I'm sick and tired of playing against my one friend, who has thousands of cards and a load of decks- and the central theme is to be as broken as possible. In the last match, I just got wiped out with 200-something Creature TOKENS that have 2/2. He had primedoral hydra (idk if I spelled that correctly) and some other card that converts a creature's power into creature tokens at the sacrifice of the creature, and Cloudshift so it ended up back in his hand, and a Wurm's Tooth so every green creature summoned earned him life... the creature tokens were all green... and um so yeah.
That happens like every time we play. I don't even enjoy playing the game half the time -_- Even with my white/green angel deck (centered around the idea of a high attack/ defense and gaining a lot of life&mana quickly) I could only do a fraction of damage.
Some friends of mine just foud a card store near me selling common singles for 25cents, rare single cards for $1, mythics for $2, and Planeswalkers for $10. Budget= not a problem.
I want to build the ultimate broken deck. I'll call it "Vengence." Yes. It will have a name.
Thing is, I'm a noob and have no idea where to start.
Any suggestion is a good suggestion. Fire away! (Please an thank you :3 )
My buddy likes to play that Hydra on me...He usually waits a few turns to pump it up, and I usually respond with a Doom Blade or I will just counter it(depending on the deck I am using). Death Wind is a nice way to kill it as well.
Dont know if any of this helps, just thought I'd share my experience with that dang Hydra.
Okay. I'm sick and tired of playing against my one friend, who has thousands of cards and a load of decks- and the central theme is to be as broken as possible. In the last match, I just got wiped out with 200-something Creature TOKENS that have 2/2. He had primedoral hydra (idk if I spelled that correctly) and some other card that converts a creature's power into creature tokens at the sacrifice of the creature, and Cloudshift so it ended up back in his hand, and a Wurm's Tooth so every green creature summoned earned him life... the creature tokens were all green... and um so yeah.
Ok... this doesn't work at all. There are at least 3 rules mistakes in this "combo" of his that I see right off the bat. And possibly more, which I'll expand on after I point the confirmed ones out.
First one is: casting cloudshift on a creature being sacrificed to pay a cost won't bring it back. The creature dies. "Sacrifice a creature" is not the same as "destroy target creature". Sacrificing in the case you mention seems to be a cost, and if he does sacrifice the hydra, it can't be "saved" with cloudshift. Also worth noting that cloudshift returns the creature to the battlefield, not your hand.
Second: if he uses cloudshift on a primordial hydra , it will return to the battlefield as a 0/0 and die on the spot as a state-based effect. State-Based effects don't go on the stack, which means they can't be responded to. They are accounted for when a player receives priority.
Third problem with this is that, all things aside, tokens aren't "cast", so he can't get any life from wurm's tooth with that (provided it worked) even if he brings down one billion tokens. Tokens are "put on the battlefield", not "cast", and there's a huge difference in that.
Also, there's the problem with the card that allows him to sacrifice a creature for 2/2 tokens (by the way, they don't "have 2/2", they are 2/2, this is their power/toughness) that I don't know about, and by that I mean it might very well not exist. There might be another rules mistake in there. Since you seem to be using more recent cards, it might be feed the pack . If that's the case, this is the forth rules mistake. He cannot sacrifice more than one creature to it, and can do it only once each turn, since it says "At the beginning of your end step", not "during your end step".
So, instead of building a new deck, you can just tell him that this whole is at the very least a triple (or, I believe, a quadruple) fail. This is indeed "the ultimate broken deck", not broken as in good, but broken as something that couldn't ever work, something that is beyond fix.
However, if you still want to build a good, new deck, I'm here to help, but some guidelines are needed, since possibilities are endless.
For linking a card to Gatherer without writting the name of said card for readers, use the autocard brackets together with and equal sign and right the name of the real card. Then put the message you want inside the tags, like you would do with autocarding. Like this:
I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".
Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.
Now, now. 1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".
Oh, it's a brilliant plan. You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat. Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit. He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee. "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk. He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy. He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right. Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms. "THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!"
And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.
The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?
I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.
Of course, the best use [of tolaria west ] is transmuting for the real Tolaria.
Absolutely. I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria , and I was finally able win my first game.
Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available. "No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.
Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.
I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.
Dymecoar:
Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets. You can do it...but why?
Omega137:
Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right." Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"
Zigeif777:
Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.
Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.
It was revealed to me in a dream. All the cards were in my dream except for three slots which I plugged in as Vault Skirge.
FULL DISCLOSURE: The dream was post AVR so there was a copy of Slayer's Stronghold. I decided to keep it pre AVR in my post here.
EDIT: I just remembered. The Skirges might have been 2x Whipflare and 1x something else, probably War and Peace.
EDIT2: Currently 4-0 in my first four games with this. My opponents have been very angry. I fought off a Wurmcoil from Grixis for six turns before I found my second Dispatch. Jeez, I can do a lot of damage.
EDIT3: Streak broken. Lost to an unexpected Overrun. Cracking a Shrine for 10 wasn't enough.
@vector, I probably got the details wrong ahaha. But all the same, I sensed somethig fishy, too. Thing is, he does tournaments with decks like that, so idk how much he could've faked :/
and @catowner, that's a brilliant deck! I'll see if I can find those cards at tge new card store! Thanks!
We're trying to force him to make an unbroken deck, but unfortunately, that's "his playing style" (sigh)
I'm going to the card store on Sat.
@high_plains_drifter I'll see if I can find those cards Thanks!
@sylverbladedwyngs catowners suggestion wasnt real XP i wish I COULD OWN A LOTUS....Budget Legacy and Modern decks can be pretty good. Death and taxes, soul sister, affinity, dredge. If you just want the best casual deck ever than all you need is a 60 card chancellor of the dross deck. AUTOWIN...obviously tht doesnt follow the playset rules xP. Tinker decks tht use 4 sol ring are pretty cheap. Basically turn 1: drop an island, sol ring..turn 2: drop an island, tap the island and sol ring and cast tinker and get a blightsteel colossus for a turn 2-3 win Xp...sol ring is restricted in vintage but since this is casual XP
heartless summoning is broken in the right situations..heres a link of a possible 1st turn win and infinite combos.
You want a way to nuke him? Token strategy can potentially be hard to deal with, although it's slow enough that you'd have a good chance for a nice combo deck or a shutdown deck. I hate token's, but there are a few really nice ways to hose them. Depending on what colour your playing; Echoing Truth & Maelstrom Pulse are an answer when they think they have you killed off.
I would try a deck based on Painter's Servant & grindstone . Lots of tutors/artifact tutors to find them (maybe some Tezz. planeswalkers if you have the moolah). This way you can mill his whole deck on turn three or four and make him have to rethink his deck. Add plenty of cards like Propaganda , maybe even some Fog Bank & Wall of Tears to slow him up BIG time.
If he's likely to play Leyline of Sanctity , there are a few ways to make the deck still work easily. Include a single Laboratory Maniac , Dread Return , Narcomoeba and some Bloodghast . Use a "free" instant, and almost uncounterable draw spell for the win, like Street Wraith . You'll have to choose which way to go of course, you can't cover both strategies.......
Ask him for a breakdown on how it works, I'm curious as there are several points that seem to be fundamental to how you describe it that really really really DON'T work, as vektor stated.
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How many planeswalkers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Spoiler:Show
Better question, what does Nicol Bolas want with the lightbulb?
Cracking a Shrine for 10 wasn't enough. 
