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Switch to Forum Live View 06/20/2012 BoaB: "Solving the Control Conundrum"
12 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 5:39PM #1
Garmichael
Date Joined: Jun 24, 2008
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Building on a Budget, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 9:17PM #2
SadisticMystic
Date Joined: Aug 6, 2003
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Then it hit me! The control deck needs to end the game before it loses to the aggressive deck's inevitability.



If the aggressive deck is the one with inevitability, then what the hell does "control" even represent?

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 9:52PM #3
crimson_sunrise
Date Joined: Oct 29, 2007
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Heh.

Still, I think there's a good point in that sentence. It's quite possible that as the nature of design changes, the traditional understandings of archetypes may become invalid.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 10:40PM #4
luminumcan
Date Joined: Sep 28, 2010
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Indeed. What a world we live in, where aggro decks have inevitability and the control deck wants to end things as quickly as possible. Tongue Out

This looks fun, though. And it makes me anticipate the release of things like Liliana of the Dark Realms in M13.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 12:41AM #5
Waka-Waka
Date Joined: Apr 9, 2012
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Cool list!  
The only thing I would change, though, is cutting a Swamp for another spell.  The reason (or my reasoning) being that in your deck, it doesn't really look like you want to be drawing lands.  Between the 4 Spheres , Talismans , and Solemns , you don't have any mana issues, and any time that you could have drawn a swamp is a time you could've drawn a spell.  Especially since one of your engines ( Mycosynth Wellspring ) tutors up lands for you.  Personally, I would switch out that extra land for another Distress , since that gets rid of the widest range of problem cards.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 1:00AM #6
Drecon84
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This has to be said: Best BoaB article from Jacob to date.

The Black Sun's aren't really budget but with cards like Geist of St Traft you just can't get around it.
Deck looks solid, all cards are well thought out and seem to work. Good job.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 1:14AM #7
goblinrecruiter
Date Joined: Mar 25, 2005
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I'm not convinced that this should be called a control deck.  It seems more like a combo deck than anything else.  Only eight cards in the main deck are answers; the rest of the deck is devoted to finding and casting Sorin Markov + Sorin's Vengeance .
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 2:33AM #8
DeluxeTea
Date Joined: May 16, 2012
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Jun 20, 2012 -- 1:00AM, Drecon84 wrote:

This has to be said: Best BoaB article from Jacob to date.

The Black Sun's aren't really budget but with cards like Geist of St Traft you just can't get around it.
Deck looks solid, all cards are well thought out and seem to work. Good job.



Can a few BSZ be replaced with Barters to be more budget-oriented?

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 3:55AM #9
DeEer
Date Joined: Oct 7, 2011
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Really nice deck!
Im a little worried about the price though, but the idea of using Sorin's Vengeance is insane and cool. 

Jun 20, 2012 -- 1:00AM, Drecon84 wrote:

This has to be said: Best BoaB article from Jacob to date.

The Black Sun's aren't really budget but with cards like Geist of St Traft you just can't get around it.
Deck looks solid, all cards are well thought out and seem to work. Good job.



Well i still think the best deck was: Rareless and Careless.
www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.a...

Anyway, this deck is more combo than control, but who cares... 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 20, 2012 - 3:59AM #10
TEA_DEMON
Date Joined: May 11, 2011
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rareless and careless was a good deck, but i think this one is just as good. i do agree that a land for a distress is a good thing to do as well.
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