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13 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 12:31PM #1
julian_0072
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1) I use artifact deck. I have one card that says "All permanents are artifact in adition to their tipe" and i combine with another that have the ability to "Gain control of another artefact in play (this effect doesn't end at the end of turn)".
So, if i take control of an oponent creature that was casted two or more turns ago, ¿Can i attack with that creature?
2) With the card that "all permanent are artifact...", ¿lands and enchantment are artifacts too?


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13 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 12:34PM #2
Enigma256
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1. since you did not control that creature since the beginning of your most recent turn you cannot attack.
that's why practically all temporary steal effects grant haste

2. yes, they are permanents and will be affected by the Lattice
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 12:35PM #3
Chaikov
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Jun 19, 2012 -- 12:31PM, julian_0072 wrote:


1) I use artifact deck. I have one card that says "All permanents are artifact in adition to their tipe" and i combine with another that have the ability to "Gain control of another artefact in play (this effect doesn't end at the end of turn)".
So, if i take control of an oponent creature that was casted two or more turns ago, ¿Can i attack with that creature?


Not yet.
When a creature gets stolen, it also catches Summoning Sickness. 
You'll have to wait for your next turn to attack with it.



Jun 19, 2012 -- 12:31PM, julian_0072 wrote:

2) With the card that "all permanent are artifact...", ¿lands and enchantment are artifacts too?


Yes.

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 12:35PM #4
K-Mogg
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1. No, you must have controled it since the begining of your turn.  You will be able to attack your next turn.

2. Yes, everything on the battlefield is a permenant.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 12:36PM #5
Chaikov
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Jun 19, 2012 -- 12:34PM, Enigma256 wrote:

that's why practically all temporary steal effects grant haste


...but Memnarch doesn't.

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 12:36PM #6
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Jun 19, 2012 -- 12:31PM, julian_0072 wrote:

1) I use artifact deck. I have one card that says "All permanents are artifact in adition to their tipe" and i combine with another that have the ability to "Gain control of another artefact in play (this effect doesn't end at the end of turn)".
So, if i take control of an oponent creature that was casted two or more turns ago, ¿Can i attack with that creature?


No. You have not controlled it since the beginning of your most recent turn.

Summoning sickness doesn't care how long things have been on the battlefield. It cares about how long you have controlled things.

Jun 19, 2012 -- 12:31PM, julian_0072 wrote:

2) With the card that "all permanent are artifact...", ¿lands and enchantment are artifacts too?


Yes. Lands and enchantments are both permanents. Mycosynth Lattice will make them artifacts in addition to what they were already.

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 19, 2012 - 12:37PM #7
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Jun 19, 2012 -- 12:36PM, Chaikov wrote:

Jun 19, 2012 -- 12:34PM, Enigma256 wrote:

that's why practically all temporary steal effects grant haste


...but Memnarch doesn't.


yes, that's my point

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