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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 4:21AM #1
r3lliklair3s
Date Joined: Sep 29, 2006
Posts: 143
Please help! I am trying to put together a Modern Teferi Teachings deck, but have been out of the loop for so many years I really don't know where to start. I have picked up most the lands I would need such as Watery Grave , Drowned Catacomb , Sunken Ruins , and Creeping Tar Pit . I already have Teferi, Mage of Zhalifir and plan on picking up a playset of Snapcaster Mage , and probably a singleton of Wurmcoil Engine or Consecrated Sphinx as my beater. Probably looking at running 3 x Mystical Teachings , 12 x Counterspells, 6-8 x Mass and Spot removal.

I really need help on card choices and piecing this deck together. Help would greatly be appreciated and price range is really not all that big of a deal. Thank you in advance.

Edit: I want it to play similar to the Dralnu De Louvre days where I counter and deny just about anything they can throw at me and drain their life away with my beater.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 2:46PM #2
Mise_Mage
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2012
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Jun 17, 2012 -- 4:21AM, r3lliklair3s wrote:

Please help! I am trying to put together a Modern Teferi Teachings deck, but have been out of the loop for so many years I really don't know where to start. I have picked up most the lands I would need such as Watery Grave , Drowned Catacomb , Sunken Ruins , and Creeping Tar Pit . I already have Teferi, Mage of Zhalifir and plan on picking up a playset of Snapcaster Mage , and probably a singleton of Wurmcoil Engine or Consecrated Sphinx as my beater. Probably looking at running 3 x Mystical Teachings , 12 x Counterspells, 6-8 x Mass and Spot removal.

I really need help on card choices and piecing this deck together. Help would greatly be appreciated and price range is really not all that big of a deal. Thank you in advance.

Edit: I want it to play similar to the Dralnu De Louvre days where I counter and deny just about anything they can throw at me and drain their life away with my beater.




I am not 100% sure if Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir isn't too slow for modern but here is a proposed list

4 Watery Grave
4 Drowned Catacomb
2 Sunken Ruins
8 Island
5 Swamp
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Creeping Tar Pit

Creatures
4 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
4 Snapcaster Mage
2 Wurmcoil Engine

Spells
4 Mana Leak
4 Remand
4 Condescend
4 Go for the Throat
4 Thoughtseize
3 Mystical Teachings
2 Tendrils of Corruption

Sideboard
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Vendilion Clique
4 Damnation
3 Surgical Extraction

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 5:27PM #3
Svetlio
Date Joined: Jan 17, 2006
Posts: 133
Hurkyls Recall is really good SB option since you can teachings for it or snapcaster it. After all affinity is one of your biggest enemies if not the biggest. Te Go For the Throat should be something like 2 smothers and 2 other cards. Also Gifts Ungiven is great choice. I would suggest running more lifegain - 1 batterskull instead of 1 teferi should be fine(after all teferi is a legend and 4 of is a bit excessive). Another good option for sb is sudden death which completely destroys the splinter twin and is great again with gifts/snapcaster/teachings etc.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 17, 2012 - 7:26PM #4
r3lliklair3s
Date Joined: Sep 29, 2006
Posts: 143
Love the suggestions. I was thinking something along those lines, but what about Silver Bullets? Like Pact of Negation , Slaughter Pact , and Consume the Meek ? I was thinking of a split between Wurmcoil Engine and Batterskull , but I can't tutor for the second. I was also thinking of an ESPER build that could include Path to Exile and Esper Charm . What do you think?

Also, I am trying to stay away from anything that involves socery just so I can tutor up just about anything in the deck.  


Jun 17, 2012 -- 2:46PM, Mise_Mage wrote:

Jun 17, 2012 -- 4:21AM, r3lliklair3s wrote:

Please help! I am trying to put together a Modern Teferi Teachings deck, but have been out of the loop for so many years I really don't know where to start. I have picked up most the lands I would need such as Watery Grave , Drowned Catacomb , Sunken Ruins , and Creeping Tar Pit . I already have Teferi, Mage of Zhalifir and plan on picking up a playset of Snapcaster Mage , and probably a singleton of Wurmcoil Engine or Consecrated Sphinx as my beater. Probably looking at running 3 x Mystical Teachings , 12 x Counterspells, 6-8 x Mass and Spot removal.

I really need help on card choices and piecing this deck together. Help would greatly be appreciated and price range is really not all that big of a deal. Thank you in advance.

Edit: I want it to play similar to the Dralnu De Louvre days where I counter and deny just about anything they can throw at me and drain their life away with my beater.




I am not 100% sure if Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir isn't too slow for modern but here is a proposed list

4 Watery Grave
4 Drowned Catacomb
2 Sunken Ruins
8 Island
5 Swamp
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Creeping Tar Pit

Creatures
4 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
4 Snapcaster Mage
2 Wurmcoil Engine

Spells
4 Mana Leak
4 Remand
4 Condescend
4 Go for the Throat
4 Thoughtseize
3 Mystical Teachings
2 Tendrils of Corruption

Sideboard
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Vendilion Clique
4 Damnation
3 Surgical Extraction




Jun 17, 2012 -- 5:27PM, Svetlio wrote:

Hurkyls Recall is really good SB option since you can teachings for it or snapcaster it. After all affinity is one of your biggest enemies if not the biggest. Te Go For the Throat should be something like 2 smothers and 2 other cards. Also Gifts Ungiven is great choice. I would suggest running more lifegain - 1 batterskull instead of 1 teferi should be fine(after all teferi is a legend and 4 of is a bit excessive). Another good option for sb is sudden death which completely destroys the splinter twin and is great again with gifts/snapcaster/teachings etc.




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12 months ago  ::  Jun 18, 2012 - 7:28AM #5
Svetlio
Date Joined: Jan 17, 2006
Posts: 133
Pact of Negation is a no-go for me since the only enemy control deck is the UW or the tron reanimator and against them you have better options(surgical extraction). Going esper will be a bit tough of a squeeze and the removal you have now is decent enough. Your worst enemy will be Jund/Jund loam which can just obliterate you with a ravens crime and a Life from the loam. And Jund has some insane draws - T1 bird T2 BoB T3 Bloodbraid into Liliana or Goyf which on the draw is kinda unbeatable by UB. Think about a disfigure or something cheap. Also 4 Thoughtseize is a bit excessive for your life total -2+2 Inquisiton of Kozilek should do the trick pretty well. Think about ghost quarters or tectonic edges vs the 18land tron since it really is annoying and you cannot counter emrakul which usually wins them the game. (yes you will counter karn/wurmcoils/mindslavers) but the emrakuls are kinda BIG game. That's all I can think of atm. Remember - it all depends on local meta. Think about what people around you are playing and adapt. I usually have a package of ~80 cards and after i have a look around i pick my 75. It is a flexible deck with room for change. Another thing is - you cannot be prepared for everything. You can leave a match there that you cannot win and it usually is what people do now. You can't beat all of them so don't stress yourself about your worst matchup and work on the rest. If you get paired with them - tough luck. If not you should be good to go. Good luck !
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 18, 2012 - 9:03AM #6
r3lliklair3s
Date Joined: Sep 29, 2006
Posts: 143
So, I took all the suggestions and this is what I am roughly looking at:

4 x Snapcaster Mage
3 x Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
1 x Wurmcoil Engine
1 x Batterskull

4 x Mana Leak
4 x Rune Snag
4 x Cryptic Command

2 x Smother
2 x Tendrils of Corruption
1 x Consume The Meek

3 x Think Twice
1 x Gifts Ungiven

3 x Mystical Teachings
1 x Repeal
1 x Extirpate

4 x Watery Grave
4 x Drowned Catacomb
4 x Sunken Ruins
4 x Creeping Tar Pit
2 x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
3 x Island
2 x Ghost Quarter
2 x Tectonic Edge


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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 1:46PM #7
r3lliklair3s
Date Joined: Sep 29, 2006
Posts: 143
*Shameless Bump* Does anyone have any more insight for this UB Teferi Control list I posted?
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 4:46PM #8
Svetlio
Date Joined: Jan 17, 2006
Posts: 133
Extirpate main is seriously excessive. I'd cut 1 snapcaster 1 Extirpate and 1 Gifts(you are not the gifts combo reanimator) and add 3 Spell Snare. Play some games and post results of the matches. That would be easier because it will give me(us) a base for new suggestions. Another option if you dont like Spell Snare(which i FIRMLY BELIVE is the best counterspell in modern and  top4 legacy) try 3 Vendillion Clique.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 24, 2012 - 6:07PM #9
zpikduM
Date Joined: Nov 11, 2009
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I think you can shave 1 of the Teferi and add something else for the toolbox. I'd also cut Tendrils because its too cute. Run a Tragic Slip and a Dismember instead.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 25, 2012 - 12:57AM #10
r3lliklair3s
Date Joined: Sep 29, 2006
Posts: 143

Jun 24, 2012 -- 4:46PM, Svetlio wrote:

Extirpate main is seriously excessive. I'd cut 1 snapcaster 1 Extirpate and 1 Gifts(you are not the gifts combo reanimator) and add 3 Spell Snare. Play some games and post results of the matches. That would be easier because it will give me(us) a base for new suggestions. Another option if you dont like Spell Snare(which i FIRMLY BELIVE is the best counterspell in modern and  top4 legacy) try 3 Vendillion Clique.




Jun 24, 2012 -- 6:07PM, zpikduM wrote:

I think you can shave 1 of the Teferi and add something else for the toolbox. I'd also cut Tendrils because its too cute. Run a Tragic Slip and a Dismember instead.




-1 Snapcaster
-1 Teferi
-1 Extirpate
-1 Gifts
-2 Tendrils
-4 Mana Leak

+3 V. Clique
+3 Spell Snare
+1 Dismember
+1 Tragic Slip
+1 Think Twice
+1 OPEN SLOT

What do you guys think? Viable? I'm in Afghanistan so there isn't a whole lot of great game testing right now.

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