Community

 
Jump Menu:
Post Reply
Page 2 of 4  •  Prev 1 2 3 4 Next
Switch to Forum Live View 06/11/2012 MM: "Duel's Paradise"
12 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2012 - 11:58PM #11
Fearsomecritter
Date Joined: Sep 29, 2010
Posts: 13
I would think that if they were going to reprint dragonfodder they would have at least named it something a little more generic. Two core sets from now we're going to see a new version of this card called "Goblincall". 
Quick Reply
Cancel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 12:40AM #12
LMTRK
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2009
Posts: 6,777

Jun 10, 2012 -- 10:45PM, JackOfAllParades wrote:

You've taken a card that was very universal and slapped a proper noun on it.  Dragon Fodder is a favorite card of mine.  It's name is funny without being too goofy.  It hits the sweet spot.  It's just the perfect thing to call a pair of goblin tokens.  



Calling a pair of Gobin tokens "dragon fodder" only works if you can feed them to a dragon, and since Exalted is back in M13, Devour wont be. Its not even like the tokens have flying so you can use them to chump block a dragon, either.

Oh and this:

Jun 10, 2012 -- 10:38PM, Qmark wrote:

Exact reprints containing the name of new legends are what allows "eight-ofs" in a deck.





~ Tim 

I am Blue/White
Reached DCI Rating 1800 on 28/10/11. :D
Sig Show

Jan 5, 2013 -- 9:32PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jan 4, 2013 -- 5:20AM, LMTRK wrote:

That makes no sense to me.

If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed?

~ Tim   


Yup, just like you can have Birds of paradise in a mono green deck but not Noble Hierarch . YAY COLOR IDENTITY


Oct 26, 2012 -- 9:56PM, zammm wrote:

Oct 26, 2012 -- 12:24AM, Raeoran wrote:

Is algebra really that difficult?

Survey says yes.


Jul 7, 2011 -- 12:59AM, Novacat wrote:

Jul 7, 2011 -- 12:36AM, LMTRK wrote:

You want to make a milky drink. You squeeze a cow.


I love this description. Like the cows are sponges filled with milk. I can see it all Nick Parks claymation-style with the cow's eyes bugging out momentarily as a giant farmer squeezes it like a squeaky dog toy, and milk shoots out of it.

Quick Reply
Cancel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 2:00AM #13
TobyornotToby
Date Joined: Mar 7, 2006
Posts: 2,279

Jun 10, 2012 -- 10:45PM, JackOfAllParades wrote:

I do think, for example, "Divination" is worthwhile over the servicable "councel of the soratami."  It's a more elegant and universal image, easier for a new player to absorb (Even though you do trade away the mystery the original provided in the core set.  "Who are the soratami?"  you might have wondered, and "Why does everybody want their concel? . . . How deep does this Magic rabbit hole go?") 

[...]

But this preview has me totally scratching my head.  Now you are going the opposite direction.  You've taken a card that was very universal and slapped a proper noun on it.  Dragon Fodder is a favorite card of mine.  It's name is funny without being too goofy.  It hits the sweet spot.  It's just the perfect thing to call a pair of goblin tokens.  You could switch up the art and flavor text and this card would be welcome in just about any Magic block that didn't mind having goblin tokens around.  More relevant to what I was saying:  It's more universal.  More of a fantasy trope.  But now you've got new players asking:  "Who is Krenko?"




The difference being that you can find out the second by cracking more packs from the same (in-print, standard-legal) set, whereas the first is a throwback to something less relevant today. Althought it would be cool to see a Counsel of the Soratami with Tamiyo, the Moon Sage art =)

Quick Reply
Cancel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 2:03AM #14
Max_Glycine
Date Joined: Jan 15, 2011
Posts: 13
Don't like Krenko bring printed in a core set. I started back when Magic had books to accompany it, during Masques specifically. I liked the Legends for the same reason the people who created them did: I felt that Legends created crossover appeal between Magic and roleplaying games, as do planeswalkers. They created a character for you to identify with. Even better, they allowed you to tell your own stories about the games you played. Even now, as I'm trying to become competitive at levels higher than FNM, I still love playing occasional games with my friends where we dive deep into the flavor of the game and describe our card's actions as we cast them. I feel that printing a Legend in a core set robs Krenko of that opportunity, because he has no story. He has no rivals, no friends, only two flimsy minions, and no defining struggle. He doesn't have much character at all, which makes the Legendary addition pointless and feel wrong, especially since writers in R&D like yourself frequently talk about their general dislike for Legendary, due to it being a downside-only mechanic.

Also, about renaming Dragon Fodder- I don't like the new name, but I don't think you should have kept the old one. Flavorfully, the old name wouldn't have made sense. But the new name means that, when indulging my inner Vorthos, I can't call upon these particular goblins without also obtaining the allegiance of their master,  who I won't be putting in any of my decks.
Quick Reply
Cancel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 5:58AM #15
alextfish
Date Joined: Mar 16, 2004
Posts: 1,459
The puns in this article don't work in a British accent; "Duel" is pronounced with two syllables, "DYOO-ul", to rhyme with "Jewel". It was only at the last one that I even figured out what pun Maro was trying to make -.-;;

Jun 10, 2012 -- 10:45PM, JackOfAllParades wrote:

 Then there were some "new" old cards that were more fiddly,  "Essence Scatter" is a more blue thing to do than "Remove Soul", i guess, but ultimately wasn't remove soul pretty much fine?


As they said at the time, "Remove Soul" sounds like a black kill spell. It doesn't make sense that it's something you can only do as a spell is being cast.

Jun 11, 2012 -- 2:00AM, TobyornotToby wrote:

The difference being that you can find out [who the Soratami are] by cracking more packs from the same (in-print, standard-legal) set, whereas the first is a throwback to something less relevant today. Althought it would be cool to see a Counsel of the Soratami with Tamiyo, the Moon Sage art =)


Counsel of the Soratami was reprinted in Tenth Edition, which was 1997; Champions of Kamigawa was 1994, so I don't think there were many other Soratami references in XED.

Quick Reply
Cancel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 7:53AM #16
felbatista
Date Joined: Jan 29, 2012
Posts: 1,220

Jun 10, 2012 -- 9:14PM, Angoth1 wrote:

Continuing the trend of focusing on the advanced players, each deck has a larger pool of cards to unlock and thus more customization available. Part of the fun of Magic is optimizing your deck and Duels 2013 gives you more opportunity to do that.

Let me know when you can just make a 60 card deck and play it.  I bought DotP once.  I won't do so again unless that is the case.  I don't want 'more opportunity to do that'.  I want to DO THAT




You can do that since the last version of the game, DotP 2012.

WotC doesn't care about flavor. Their forum is the only place where an ORC can kill a troll...
Quick Reply
Cancel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 8:34AM #17
LMTRK
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2009
Posts: 6,777

Jun 11, 2012 -- 5:58AM, alextfish wrote:

The puns in this article don't work in a British accent; "Duel" is pronounced with two syllables, "DYOO-ul", to rhyme with "Jewel". It was only at the last one that I even figured out what pun Maro was trying to make -.-;;



I still dont see it...?

~ Tim 

I am Blue/White
Reached DCI Rating 1800 on 28/10/11. :D
Sig Show

Jan 5, 2013 -- 9:32PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jan 4, 2013 -- 5:20AM, LMTRK wrote:

That makes no sense to me.

If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed?

~ Tim   


Yup, just like you can have Birds of paradise in a mono green deck but not Noble Hierarch . YAY COLOR IDENTITY


Oct 26, 2012 -- 9:56PM, zammm wrote:

Oct 26, 2012 -- 12:24AM, Raeoran wrote:

Is algebra really that difficult?

Survey says yes.


Jul 7, 2011 -- 12:59AM, Novacat wrote:

Jul 7, 2011 -- 12:36AM, LMTRK wrote:

You want to make a milky drink. You squeeze a cow.


I love this description. Like the cows are sponges filled with milk. I can see it all Nick Parks claymation-style with the cow's eyes bugging out momentarily as a giant farmer squeezes it like a squeaky dog toy, and milk shoots out of it.

Quick Reply
Cancel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 10:41AM #18
Dragon_Nut
Date Joined: Feb 22, 2005
Posts: 2,135

Jun 11, 2012 -- 7:53AM, felbatista wrote:

Jun 10, 2012 -- 9:14PM, Angoth1 wrote:

Continuing the trend of focusing on the advanced players, each deck has a larger pool of cards to unlock and thus more customization available. Part of the fun of Magic is optimizing your deck and Duels 2013 gives you more opportunity to do that.

Let me know when you can just make a 60 card deck and play it.  I bought DotP once.  I won't do so again unless that is the case.  I don't want 'more opportunity to do that'.  I want to DO THAT




You can do that since the last version of the game, DotP 2012.



Blatant lies. You get to choose the nonland cards for each deck, but only out of a preset pool of 40 or so different cards with no ability to obtain more copies of cards that are singleton. There's no way to even use cards you've unlocked in other decks. So you can't put a copy of Sword of War and Peace in Nissa's deck, for instance, even if you've unlocked it for Gideon's deck.

Immature College Student
(Also a Rules Advisor)

   
   
   
Quick Reply
Cancel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 11:10AM #19
TobyornotToby
Date Joined: Mar 7, 2006
Posts: 2,279

Jun 11, 2012 -- 5:58AM, alextfish wrote:

Counsel of the Soratami was reprinted in Tenth Edition, which was 1997; Champions of Kamigawa was 1994, so I don't think there were many other Soratami references in XED.




What do you mean exactly? Having to reprint silliness like Counsel of the Soratami is one of the reasons M10 got the overhaul it did. 

Quick Reply
Cancel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 12:05PM #20
aj_suarez
Date Joined: May 25, 2012
Posts: 1
Since when has Duels of the Planeswalkers on iOS? i can't find it, would somebody please link me to the app store page or something?
 
Quick Reply
Cancel
Page 2 of 4  •  Prev 1 2 3 4 Next
Jump Menu:
 
    Viewing this thread :: 0 registered and 1 guest
    No registered users viewing