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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 6:02PM
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So my creature gets targeted with a Lightning Bolt  and I Cloudshift  in response My creature flickers in and out and is a new target. The bolt no longer has a legal target. Is this correct? Is that how flickering works?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 6:04PM
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This is correct.
When the creature returns to the battlefield, it is no longer considered the same creature it was before. All targets and associations are removed.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 6:11PM
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The bolt no longer has a legal target.
...because the creature it targeted no longer exists (even after the card comes back to create a new creature), and thus the bolt gets countered.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 6:51PM
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What happens if you cloudshift a token however? If its exiled wouldnt it just be destroyed?
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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 7:01PM
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What happens if you cloudshift a token however? If its exiled wouldnt it just be destroyed?
The token will be exiled, and then it will cease to exist shortly thereafter. It will not return to the battlefield.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 7:03PM
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A token that leaves the battlefield for any reason can't return, and will cease to exist entirely the next time state-based actions happen (i.e. before anyone can do anything else). This is not destruction - for one thing, destruction is a way of moving from the battlefield to the graveyard, this is movement from (in this case) exile to nowhere. But the token won't be coming back, in any case.
Jeff Heikkinen
DCI Rules Advisor since Dec 25, 2011
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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 7:09PM
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Thanks for the clearity. I was hoping else way so i could cloudshift a seance token before the exile measure. I know this is the topic but what would happen if i were the one get the token on the field for free and then sac/destroy my enchantment (Seance). Would the exile measurement for the token still reslove later at my end step? Thanks.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 7:12PM
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Sacrificing the token is a delayed trigger created when the token is created. Remonving Seance won't prevent the token from being sacrificed.
… and then, the squirrels came.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 7:12PM
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Please autocard: [ C]Seance[/C] ⇒ Seance 
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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 7:18PM
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Sacrificing the token is a delayed trigger created when the token is created. Remonving Seance won't prevent the token from being sacrificed.
Ok but what if i just so happen to have a torpor orb into play however. (and no clue how to autocard, sorry for that)
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