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13 months ago ::
Jun 06, 2012 - 4:00AM
#21
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Date Joined:
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Deck looks great, and it's good to see match reports again. I'd have liked more details on "a Thornling  against Jund is pretty much the most unfair thing ever". He just skimmed past what would have been a bit of fun reading.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 06, 2012 - 6:06AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 30, 2003
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Using the best prices from bidwicket.com, assuming $5 shipping, free basic lands, and that Ravenous Baloth really means Obstinate Baloth:
Estimated total cost: 119.56
4 Llanowar Wastes: 4 @ 1.67; total 6.68
1 Pendelhaven: 1 @ 0.9; total 0.9
3 Treetop Village: 3 @ 0.76; total 2.28
4 Twilight Mire: 4 @ 9.25; total 37.0
4 Birds of Paradise: 4 @ 3.25; total 13.0
4 Devoted Druid: 4 @ 0.25; total 1.0
3 Elves of Deep Shadow: 3 @ 0.1; total 0.3
4 Fauna Shaman: 4 @ 2.23; total 8.92
1 Grim Poppet: 1 @ 0.45; total 0.45
1 Kitchen Finks: 1 @ 6.95; total 6.95
4 Llanowar Elves: 4 @ 0.02; total 0.08
4 Necrotic Ooze: 4 @ 0.49; total 1.96
1 Nekrataal: 1 @ 0.08; total 0.08
4 Quillspike: 4 @ 0.3; total 1.2
1 Shriekmaw: 1 @ 0.48; total 0.48
3 Thornling: 3 @ 1.7; total 5.1
4 Wall of Roots: 4 @ 0.2; total 0.8
3 Birthing Pod: 3 @ 2.35; total 7.05
4 Duress: 4 @ 0.07; total 0.28
3 Faerie Macabre: 3 @ 0.22; total 0.66
1 Hypnotic Specter: 1 @ 1.2; total 1.2
2 Krosan Grip: 2 @ 1.85; total 3.7
1 Melira, Sylvok Outcast: 1 @ 0.95; total 0.95
1 Obstinate Baloth: 1 @ 0.19; total 0.19
1 Thousand-Year Elixir: 1 @ 3.25; total 3.25
2 Viridian Shaman: 2 @ 0.05; total 0.1
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13 months ago ::
Jun 06, 2012 - 6:46AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2007
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"A lot of readers have asked that I bring back game reports. I've played a lot of matches with this deck and I can share a couple of them here."
Great read, thans for the article!
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13 months ago ::
Jun 06, 2012 - 2:01PM
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Date Joined:
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I gotta be honest is not that budget friendly but it seems good...... looking throught mtgo prices is much more than $120 thought
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13 months ago ::
Jun 06, 2012 - 2:07PM
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Date Joined:
Dec 31, 2003
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These mistakes are really minor. As the one was already corrected, and the other is a typo.
The deck is a little pricey for me, though a huge chunk of that is in the lands. Swapping to basics doesn't look to make the deck too much harder to play smoothly.
Interesting deck, and a fun way to abuse the Ooze.
I also liked how he skimmed useless parts in the game reports. I like the reports, but perfect detail isn't exactly needed. It basically showed that after that point, there wasn't much that mattered.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 06, 2012 - 8:06PM
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Have to say, this is far from a budget list. Wouldn't be an issue except the title of the column is "Building on a Budget". While, yes, it wouldn't be hard to swap out the Twilight Mires for basic lands, the mana-fixing of the dual lands should not be underestimated. Especially with the card that the deck is built around being a different color to about 85% of the rest of the deck.
I remember when "Building on a Budget" actually had a limit of about 30 tickets on Magic: Online.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 06, 2012 - 9:24PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2011
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$120 seems pretty budget for Modern, though. The most expensive card in there is the Twilight Mire at not quite $10 each, and if we figure that the various singletons might already be part of a collection, or relatively easy to trade for...it seems pretty budget to me. Pod decks are quite nice that way, in fact.
Besides, about the only decent decks you can build for Standard with ~30 tickets are mono-green poison or goblins.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 06, 2012 - 9:47PM
#28
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Date Joined:
Feb 21, 2012
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This is a cool deck and looks like a ton of fun to play. I have a cheapo Standard Birthing Pod deck that is fun when it works, and this deck looks like it would probably work better. Although... no 6-drop? There's nothing that lets you sac your Thornlings, which you really want in the graveyard. If you pull the Pod but not the Fauna Shaman, it's that much harder to fully assemble the combo. I could see, in increasing cost:
- .02 tix- Morselhoarder
 with an activated ability that really complements the deck
- .03 tix- Gravetiller Wurm
 that comes in as an 8/8 trampler thanks to Morbid
- .04 tix- Deadwood Treefolk
 that grabs something from the graveyard as it enters and leaves the battlefield (just don't grab your combo pieces).
So... I checked the prices on CardHoarder and it looks like about $115 for this deck on MTGO. I thought that was pretty "budget" compared to most Modern decks, so I went to MTGO-Stats to see. The the first daily winner they have listed was a $415 Tarmogoyf  deck, which made $115 look cheap. But then the next two were $130 and $110. Most cost more. I scanned past some $300 decks and then hit... $33.80? There are pauper decks that cost more than that. BOZ won a Modern Daily on June 3 with a $34 white-weenie deck list. The money card in the deck is a single Mikaeus the Lunarch, available on CardHoarder for a whopping 4 tix. Now, that's a budget Modern deck. Still, JVL- cool article. Check the legality of the decklists. Keep bringing us good ideas and I like the game reports. tldr: Cool deck, cheaper than most Modern event winners, still out of my price range.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 1:36AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 28, 2006
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With the new MTGO export feature, perhaps somewhere in the publishing process should come the routine of loading the deck in MTGO and checking legality. I've thought for a while that this is probably the hardest column on the site to write, since JvL has to create decks that hold up in the meta without going to tier-1 cards, and then do it again the next week. Maybe ReConstructed comes close now, but those deck requirements aren't as demanding and more importantly, I believe Gavin's a WotC employee while Jacob is an external contractor. It's got to be an incredibly tough job. But, that doesn't excuse mistakes week after week. Pay him more so he can budget more time, or have the editors check more closely, or rotate the column to a new writer again, one who can give it focus. Or maybe have two writers who alternate weeks, so each one only needs half as many ideas. I just can't help shaking this recurring sense that, although Jacob is quite talented, these articles are incredibly rushed.
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12 months ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 2:33PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 26, 2011
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And yet, if White Weenie showed up in a JVL article, everyone and their mother would be complaining that "this isn't what BoaB is supposed to be, you're supposed to showcase rogue decks, not cheap, established archetypes!"
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