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12 months ago  ::  Jul 14, 2012 - 9:10AM #111
MisterDubs
Date Joined: Mar 7, 2011
Posts: 555
Sorry for the noob question, but how does this deck win?
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 14, 2012 - 9:28AM #112
Mise_Mage
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2012
Posts: 196

Jul 14, 2012 -- 9:10AM, MisterDubs wrote:

Sorry for the noob question, but how does this deck win?




Here is a video of OrionAlt off MTGSalvation playing pre M13 Sunrise combo showing you how this deck wins and saves me explaining this.

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 14, 2012 - 3:01PM #113
MisterDubs
Date Joined: Mar 7, 2011
Posts: 555
Thanks for the Video Mise_Mage, I appreciate it. The deck looks very interesting. So the idea is to make a ton of mana and then Banefire them in the face. Sounds pretty cool. I see Laboratory Maniac in your sideboard aswell. Is there any other win conditions besides the burn and the maniac?
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 15, 2012 - 2:22AM #114
Mise_Mage
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2012
Posts: 196

Jul 14, 2012 -- 3:01PM, MisterDubs wrote:

Thanks for the Video Mise_Mage, I appreciate it. The deck looks very interesting. So the idea is to make a ton of mana and then Banefire them in the face. Sounds pretty cool. I see Laboratory Maniac in your sideboard aswell. Is there any other win conditions besides the burn and the maniac?




Yes there is quite a few, Kfir plays Sunbeam Spellbomb in thier build so they can gain Infinte life and just cycle Noxious Revival to win the game, we can also win by Ghost Quarter all thier basic lands and either bouncing/burning thier creatures already on the battlefield. Some builds including mine tried out Grinding Station but that card just felt underpowered and not even good as first thought.

As for other win conditions I can think of a few off the top of my head ,we can play Bitter Ordeal and exile all our opponents lands, Blue Sun's Zenith to get them to draw thier entire deck +1, we can also play any and all of the Eldrazi guys including Emrakul, the Aeons Torn if we wanted to but the theory is if we can play the Eldrazi we can just put that mana into a letheal uncounterable, unpreventable Banefire instead. Older versions used to play Time Sieve to gain infinte turns, another idea is that we could Mindslaver to keep taking our opponents turn for the rest of the game.

As you can see the deck can win through many means and the win conditions used are more down to player preference than it being the most optimal "outs".

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12 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2012 - 12:41AM #115
Mise_Mage
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2012
Posts: 196
My newest build


Eggs

Main Deck
 
4 Ghost Quarter
4 Darksteel Citadel
7 Island
2 Plains

Etherium Sculptor

4 Second Sunrise
4 Faith's Reward
4 Reshape
4 Chromatic Star
4 Chromatic Sphere
4 Conjurer's Bauble
3 Krark-Clan Ironworks
Elsewhere Flask
3 Lotus Bloom
2 Noxious Revival
3 Ichor Wellspring
1 Banefire
1 Mox Opal
1 Pyrite Spellbomb

Sideboard

4 Silence
1 Ensnaring Bridge
2 Wipe Away
1 Angel's Grace
1 Pithing Needle
2 Defense Grid
1 Laboratory Maniac
3 Echoing Truth
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12 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2012 - 8:42AM #116
Kinsonal
Date Joined: Apr 13, 2012
Posts: 217
i personally like nox being main and i added in probe mb because it is even better post sb to know if i can safely go off or ifi need to go off sooner.

current "Faith's Sunrise" build:

17 land 
4 Ghost Quarter
                                  

7 Island
2 plains                                                     
4 darksteel citadel                                                                 
                                                                   

2 Creature
2 etherium sculptor                

17 Spells
4 Second Sunrise
4 faith's reward
4 Reshape
1 banefire
2 gitaxian probe
2 noxious revival

24 Artifacts      
4 ichor wellspring
4 Conjurer's Bauble
4 Chromatic Sphere
4 Chromatic Star
3 Lotus Bloom
3 krark-clan ironworks
1 pyrite spellbomb
1 mox opal

15 sideboard
1 aether spellbomb
1 laboratory maniac

1 Tormod's Crypt
1 pithing needle
2 defense grid
3 silence
3 echoing truth
1 angel's grace
2 wipe away
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11 months ago  ::  Aug 04, 2012 - 10:54AM #117
ChainedNBeaten
Date Joined: Apr 26, 2010
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I saw a mostly white version that ran 4 of Flagstones of Trokair why go more blue?
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11 months ago  ::  Aug 05, 2012 - 9:41AM #118
Svetlio
Date Joined: Jan 17, 2006
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Aug 4, 2012 -- 10:54AM, ChainedNBeaten wrote:

I saw a mostly white version that ran 4 of Flagstones of Trokair why go more blue?



Reshape 

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11 months ago  ::  Aug 05, 2012 - 11:25AM #119
ChainedNBeaten
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Is it that a have to have card? Know there is wargate but I want to go mono whit if possible.
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11 months ago  ::  Aug 25, 2012 - 8:46PM #120
Persimon
Date Joined: Mar 6, 2012
Posts: 86
Yes, Reshape is a have to have card. Unless of course you'd like to wait for your Lotus Bloom to come out after 3 turns. The purpose of Reshape is to avoid the 3 turn suspend and net yourself technically 1 mana after using reshape. Then from there you could have access to bringing back your bloom through Second Sunrise or Faith's Reward to net more mana.

In theory you could run with a mono-white mana base while still playing reshape. You'd just be forced to use your "eggs" as mana filters to make blue, which causes the deck to become inefficient compared to what you could be doing instead.

EDIT: I'm going to follow up with a question of my own. Which version or Eggs is more explosive? By explosive, I mean which will go off for the win on an earlier turn clock?
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