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12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 2:11AM #41
Mise_Mage
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2012
Posts: 169

Jun 11, 2012 -- 1:11AM, Kfir wrote:

Jun 10, 2012 -- 10:37PM, Mise_Mage wrote:

Jun 10, 2012 -- 9:55PM, Kinsonal wrote:

The point of a sideboard is to defend against hate and wreck other decks.




I guess a sideboard could be viewed as a way to defend against hate and wreck other decks, but I prefer to think of a sideboard as  an extension of your deck and should be designed with cards that would give you the best answers, my sideboard are cards I would play main deck against decks if I had prior knowledge I would face that deck, my sideboard has what is called "generic" answers to  most decks, the reason is the same  way I hinder aggro by using Silence on thier upkeep to "pusedo timewalk" thier turn to victory, is the same way I hinder the person who sided in Surgical Extraction , Extirpate , Pact of Negation or Mindbreak Trap  by using the exact same spell Silence but this time on my upkeep on the turn I can go off.  




Surgical extraction doesn't bother us. My nightmare is a rock player going:

T2: Sakura-tribe elder
T3: cranial extraction

But, does anyone play rock?

Also for Angel's grace, between silence and graveyard hate, the only deck on this list it's hard to hate against is affinity. I'm not sure, but I think were the faster deck.




I don't think The Rock is even a "deck" and why would people play Cranial Extraction or even Memoricide when there are better options availble, plus those cards only hurt a small minority of decks so it is pointless from a deck construction stand point to include a card that is only for a small percentage of the meta game.


Also we could go T3:during their upkeep Sac Sphere for a white, draw a card Silence opponent, oh look no CE to hurt us

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 9:21AM #42
Kinsonal
Date Joined: Apr 13, 2012
Posts: 217
mise_mage is right. There is no established rock deck. and CE shouldnt be a problem
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 11:18AM #43
Kfir
Date Joined: Feb 27, 2009
Posts: 278
True, There's little reason to defend against it. Also, what about faeries? It seems like the nightmare match for us. Should/How we preper for it?
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 3:28PM #44
Kinsonal
Date Joined: Apr 13, 2012
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@kfir
Idk ive never faced fae
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 11:38AM #45
Kinsonal
Date Joined: Apr 13, 2012
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What is fae doing to you that prevents your victory?
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 11:49AM #46
Kfir
Date Joined: Feb 27, 2009
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 11:38AM, Kinsonal wrote:

What is fae doing to you that prevents your victory?




They have counters, so you can't just go off as fast as you can, all their threats have flash, so they always leave mana open, and they can put you on a clock with their creatures. It gives you so little chances to go off.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:10PM #47
Kinsonal
Date Joined: Apr 13, 2012
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early frost
spell pierce
pact of negation
those sound like they would work in theory.
wipe away for creature threats maybe
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:35PM #48
Kfir
Date Joined: Feb 27, 2009
Posts: 278
I'm working on a new list now. The Idea is if it doesn't draw you cards, it's a land.


Lands
1 Plains
11 Island
4 Ghost Quarter


Creatures
2 Drift of Phantasms


Spells
4 Second Sunrise
4 Reshape
3 Lotus Bloom
4 Chromatic Star
4 Chromatic Sphere
4 Conjurer's Bauble
1 Pyrite Spellbomb
1 Sunbeam Spellbomb
4 Edge of Autumn
3 Elsewhere Flask
2 Serum Visions
3 Noxious Revival
4 Gitaxian Probe
1 Compulsive Research


Sideboard
3 Silence
3 Early Frost
4 Spell Pierce
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Pithing Needle
3 Echoing Truth


So far, I managed to goldfish a turn 3-4 win consistantly. What do you think? 
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 8:41PM #49
Kinsonal
Date Joined: Apr 13, 2012
Posts: 217
is ur intention to discard the land? if not then you could just use riddlesmith or divination .
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 13, 2012 - 5:58AM #50
Kfir
Date Joined: Feb 27, 2009
Posts: 278

Jun 12, 2012 -- 8:41PM, Kinsonal wrote:

is ur intention to discard the land? if not then you could just use riddlesmith or divination .




I don't understand the question. The idea Behind the deck is that every card helps you combo, to minimize the chance of fizzling. this includes 9 ways to get second sunrise (second sunrise,noxious revivel, drift of phantasms). The only cards you don't want to draw when comboing are lotus bloom and the lands. My choices are pretty obvious, exept compulsive research . The thought is that it's good before the deck goes off, by digging deeper while discarding unnecesary cards, it okay when we combo (not amazing, but not that bad either, and it serves as another win condition (by making them draw.)

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