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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 4:26PM #31
Kinsonal
Date Joined: Apr 13, 2012
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or should i replace the pithing needle for another grace?
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 11:27PM #32
Mise_Mage
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2012
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Jun 9, 2012 -- 4:26PM, Kinsonal wrote:

or should i replace the pithing needle for another grace?





Don't replace the Pithing Needle as it can help against decks that have activated abilities and helps against hate cards, if anything I would take out 2 Relic and consider adding 2  Early Frost  its like a "pusedo" timewalk in the early game against most decks or 1 Spell Pierce and 1 Angel's Grace , the thing to remember about artifacts in our sideboard is that we can search for them through Reshape when they are in our main deck.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2012 - 10:58AM #33
Kfir
Date Joined: Feb 27, 2009
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Jun 9, 2012 -- 11:27PM, Mise_Mage wrote:

Jun 9, 2012 -- 4:26PM, Kinsonal wrote:

or should i replace the pithing needle for another grace?





Don't replace the Pithing Needle as it can help against decks that have activated abilities and helps against hate cards, if anything I would take out 2 Relic and consider adding 2  Early Frost  its like a "pusedo" timewalk in the early game against most decks or 1 Spell Pierce and 1 Angel's Grace , the thing to remember about artifacts in our sideboard is that we can search for them through Reshape when they are in our main deck.




I still don't get- why angels grace? If you want to defeat burn, I say the best card is Thopter foundry .

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2012 - 12:15PM #34
Kinsonal
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@kfir
Its not so much used against burn as it is against myself.  Im probably going to takethem out of the side because i dont have as much life burn(gitaxian probe and noxious revival) the point was because against aggro decks and burn, i wouldnt have enough life to continually cast nox and probe so i sided in angels grace wich worked perfectly. This was also why i added sunbeam main. Now with less life burn i can probably take it out.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2012 - 1:21PM #35
Mise_Mage
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2012
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Jun 10, 2012 -- 10:58AM, Kfir wrote:

Jun 9, 2012 -- 11:27PM, Mise_Mage wrote:

Jun 9, 2012 -- 4:26PM, Kinsonal wrote:

or should i replace the pithing needle for another grace?





Don't replace the Pithing Needle as it can help against decks that have activated abilities and helps against hate cards, if anything I would take out 2 Relic and consider adding 2  Early Frost  its like a "pusedo" timewalk in the early game against most decks or 1 Spell Pierce and 1 Angel's Grace , the thing to remember about artifacts in our sideboard is that we can search for them through Reshape when they are in our main deck.




I still don't get- why angels grace? If you want to defeat burn, I say the best card is Thopter foundry .





Angel's Grace isn't anti burn tech, its anti-Storm, anti-Mirror, anti-Living End, anti-Affinty.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2012 - 2:19PM #36
Kinsonal
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i updated my sideboard.  I thought 1 crypt might be enough since i can tutor for it for 2 mana with reshape. and it can be put back into play.  Other than spell pierce is there any other way to deal with extraction effects? Maybe extraction itself?
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2012 - 3:19PM #37
Mise_Mage
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Jun 10, 2012 -- 2:19PM, Kinsonal wrote:

i updated my sideboard.  I thought 1 crypt might be enough since i can tutor for it for 2 mana with reshape. and it can be put back into play.  Other than spell pierce is there any other way to deal with extraction effects? Maybe extraction itself?




I think you are concentrating too much on cards that wreck the deck, have a look here www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=2671&d=217284 you will see exactly one deck playing an extraction and guess what we got that one covered with  Conjurer's Bauble , Noxious Revival and Silence on our upkeep on the turn we go off, worst case scenario is they exile Misty Rainforest or Star or sphere if we didn't have a white source, but like I said we have Conjurer's Bauble and  Noxious Revival too.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2012 - 9:55PM #38
Kinsonal
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The point of a sideboard is to defend against hate and wreck other decks.
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2012 - 10:37PM #39
Mise_Mage
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Jun 10, 2012 -- 9:55PM, Kinsonal wrote:

The point of a sideboard is to defend against hate and wreck other decks.




I guess a sideboard could be viewed as a way to defend against hate and wreck other decks, but I prefer to think of a sideboard as  an extension of your deck and should be designed with cards that would give you the best answers, my sideboard are cards I would play main deck against decks if I had prior knowledge I would face that deck, my sideboard has what is called "generic" answers to  most decks, the reason is the same  way I hinder aggro by using Silence on thier upkeep to "pusedo timewalk" thier turn to victory, is the same way I hinder the person who sided in Surgical Extraction , Extirpate , Pact of Negation or Mindbreak Trap  by using the exact same spell Silence but this time on my upkeep on the turn I can go off.  

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 11, 2012 - 1:11AM #40
Kfir
Date Joined: Feb 27, 2009
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Jun 10, 2012 -- 10:37PM, Mise_Mage wrote:

Jun 10, 2012 -- 9:55PM, Kinsonal wrote:

The point of a sideboard is to defend against hate and wreck other decks.




I guess a sideboard could be viewed as a way to defend against hate and wreck other decks, but I prefer to think of a sideboard as  an extension of your deck and should be designed with cards that would give you the best answers, my sideboard are cards I would play main deck against decks if I had prior knowledge I would face that deck, my sideboard has what is called "generic" answers to  most decks, the reason is the same  way I hinder aggro by using Silence on thier upkeep to "pusedo timewalk" thier turn to victory, is the same way I hinder the person who sided in Surgical Extraction , Extirpate , Pact of Negation or Mindbreak Trap  by using the exact same spell Silence but this time on my upkeep on the turn I can go off.  




Surgical extraction doesn't bother us. My nightmare is a rock player going:

T2: Sakura-tribe elder
T3: cranial extraction

But, does anyone play rock?

Also for Angel's grace, between silence and graveyard hate, the only deck on this list it's hard to hate against is affinity. I'm not sure, but I think were the faster deck.

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