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1 year ago ::
Jun 05, 2012 - 2:04PM
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This is my take on eggs using the locksmith build. I need help with sideboard. Is mine too unfocused? i'm going into an unkown meta with this so i sorta just have a bunch of stuff. I haveplayed a couple of people in the meta but totally cracked the eggs over their heads. They sided in a bunch of creature and artifact hate which is what i thought they would do so i sided in echoing truth and silence. They scooped XP after i cast silence the turn i was going to go off.
The reason i run the maniac, disciple and the bomb is so(since im a new eggs player) in case i screw up i can just sac a bunch of artifacts or just mill myself. And if they keep hands with all creature bounces and exiles then all i have to do is discard them with riddlesmith or (in case they path to exile which actually helps me combo sooner XP) use the bomb.
It took me a whole day to learn to play this deck (or atleast solitaire this deck and knowing when to go off) Suggestions? Thnx in advance.
*EDITED LIST*~ 14 land 4 Ghost Quarter 6 Island 4 darksteel citadel 2 Creature 2 Riddlesmith 14 Spells 4 Second Sunrise 2 Noxious Revival 4 Reshape 3 Edge of Autumn 1 banefire
30 Artifacts 1 Locket of Yesterdays 4 ichor wellspring 3 terrarion 4 Conjurer's Bauble 4 Chromatic Sphere 4 Chromatic Star 3 Lotus Bloom 2 Elsewhere Flask 3 krark-clan ironworks 1 Pyrite Spellbomb 1 aether spellbomb 15 sideboard 3 spell pierce 1 Tormod's Crypt 1 pithing needle 1 defense grid 3 silence 3 echoing truth 1 angel's grace
2 early frost
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1 year ago ::
Jun 05, 2012 - 9:47PM
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any strategies to make people scoop? Im still slow in executing the library mill and drawing etc, my problem is that it sometimes is a 10 minute turn Xp Ususally silence makes them scoop but some people try to get a draw out of me by waiting for time to go out especially since i wouldve won...NEED HELP!
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1 year ago ::
Jun 06, 2012 - 5:19AM
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Is using those creatures better then the regular version? It doesn't seem to help you until you combo, and since you already combo, you're going to win anyway. I use Early Frost instead of silence , to stay in blue. My worse fear is cranial extraction cards. What do you do with it naming second sunrise? the best I came up with is spell pierce .
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1 year ago ::
Jun 06, 2012 - 9:51PM
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@kfir i recently started playing EGGS and i am pretty slow in execution...I usually keep all three/four wincons in the deck so if i mess up and end up drawing too many cards or if i am forced to draw i can win with the maniac. The reason i put him in is because a guy i played ended up using dream twist on me and made me lose XP. The disciple is in my opinion the better secondary win con because he only costs one mana if i need to hardcast him..usually i never hardcast any creature except the riddlesmith. I like frost it seems really helpful...And yes that is my biggest fear aswell XP its happened 2 times so far. i have yet to try nix which seems like the best solution but i cant always spare the mana unless i have 2 blooms out. Unfortunatley nix only affects extraction not other similar effects..it does stop pact of negation though XP. (also good in the mirror, if that ever happens). If i take out the 2 other wincons...i will add in a sphere and should i add in terarion or is there a better card draw-er. that is usually how i fizzle is not enough draw to find that ONE card i need...The funny thing is when i go off i am always missing 1 or maybe two cards to finish the combo securely and always try to tutor or draw for it. Or if i cant find a revival or sunrise. I could also add in 2 open the vaults and 2 reclaim What is your decklist?
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1 year ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 11:01AM
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Hello there, saw your thread and thought I would add my Eggs deck to be critqued/helped with, I have played my version a lot in solataire and had some good results. I am thinking of building a sideboard as I would really like to play this deck at my next Modern event, the problem I have with sideboarding with this deck in particular, is that I know what I want my sideboard to look like, but I cannot fathom out what cards to take out, I find it hard because this deck has so many cards that help with the decks consistency, that sideboarding these cards out seem almost backwards to me, so I am looking for pointers on what I should be removing and adding against popular Archetypes. Fried Eggs & Toast 4 Ghost Quarter 4 Darksteel Citadel 6 Island 1 Plains 1 Misty Rainforest 2 Riddlesmith 4 Chromatic Sphere 4 Chromatic Star 4 Ichor Wellspring 4 Second Sunrise 4 Conjurer's Bauble 3 Lotus Bloom 3 Reshape 3 Krark-Clan Ironworks 3 Terrarion 2 Noxious Revival 2 Open the Vaults 2 Elsewhere Flask 1 Pyrite Spellbomb 1 Aether Spellbomb 1 Banefire 1 Tezzeret the Seeker Sideboard 3 Echoing Truth 3 Defense Grid 3 Silence 2 Angel's Grace 2 Early Frost 1 Nihil Spellbomb 1 Pithing Needle
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1 year ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 11:58AM
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@Mise_MAge The good thing about using kci is that many of the extras can be sided out..For example: tezz can be sided out against aggro decks because throwing him out there may cause him to die pretty quick..You can side in angel's grace for aggro match ups... As for consistancy, G1 you must wait til the Last turn to combo off. Play all eggs until the turn you combo off. Always throw down a ghost quarter if you have it. It scares the **** out of people sometimes and makes them hesitant. It sometimes also speeds up their game plan so be weary. I personally try to wait till i have atleast 1-2 eggs out along with 1 reshape for a bloom or more eggs if i suspended a bloom. I also always try to wait until i have a SS in hand...G2 is much different. You must give up some consistancy for reliability. G2 i combo off as soon as i think i can (this siometimes result in a fizzle XP) i usually get 1 hate card in my opening hand. I also suggest adding 2 more noxious revivals to your list. I personally dont see how it functions without more than 2 noxs. Siding out 1 teranion and 1-2 wellsprings and maybe a sphere vs control matchups to add in silence and early frost or defense grid. If you think you will see exarch twin matchups i would either side in echoing truth or spellskite because he can redirect the splinter twin enchant to itself. other than that your sideboard looks pretty solid... mindbreak trap is good against combo/storm matchups. pact of negation i think is a must for any combo deck. It prevents them from extirpate -ing or using the most vile card ever made: surgical extraction . I personally have always wanted to add in meddeling mage but i dont think i could support it. I would just use that card and say se or extirpate XP I personally dont think the aether bomb should be mainboarded but its based on meta. My question for you is why do you use tezz? ive never seen him in a build before and to me it just seems like a mana loss but with the kci build i guess i can see his prowess. Is he only used as an extra reshape? I think just using wargate would be easier because using the bauble, wargate can be recycled over and over again. Tezz ability can be used once to find kci for the rest of the turn, but by then you could have used that 5 mana to cast other spells.
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1 year ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 12:48PM
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Feb 27, 2009
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1 year ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 2:24PM
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sorry i was thinking of a different card XP i meant blue sun zenith for 1. Are the spoils of the vault worth it? i think it may help my fizzle problem but the life loss may be an issue. Just means sunbeam may need to be a mainboard then.
i dont know why the mine isnt in my mb. I guess i thought it wasnt modern legal XP. Wargate sounds tempting aswell but the manacost is meh...searching for a land or anything else is a turn on though. i guess i will have to solitaire it.
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1 year ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 2:35PM
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@Mise_MAge The good thing about using kci is that many of the extras can be sided out..For example: tezz can be sided out against aggro decks because throwing him out there may cause him to die pretty quick..You can side in angel's grace for aggro match ups...
As for consistancy, G1 you must wait til the Last turn to combo off. Play all eggs until the turn you combo off. Always throw down a ghost quarter if you have it. It scares the **** out of people sometimes and makes them hesitant. It sometimes also speeds up their game plan so be weary. I personally try to wait till i have atleast 1-2 eggs out along with 1 reshape for a bloom or more eggs if i suspended a bloom. I also always try to wait until i have a SS in hand...G2 is much different. You must give up some consistancy for reliability. G2 i combo off as soon as i think i can (this siometimes result in a fizzle XP) i usually get 1 hate card in my opening hand.
I also suggest adding 2 more noxious revivals to your list. I personally dont see how it functions without more than 2 noxs.
Siding out 1 teranion and 1-2 wellsprings and maybe a sphere vs control matchups to add in silence and early frost or defense grid.
If you think you will see exarch twin matchups i would either side in echoing truth or spellskite because he can redirect the splinter twin enchant to itself. other than that your sideboard looks pretty solid... mindbreak trap is good against combo/storm matchups. pact of negation i think is a must for any combo deck. It prevents them from extirpate -ing or using the most vile card ever made: surgical extraction . I personally have always wanted to add in meddeling mage but i dont think i could support it. I would just use that card and say se or extirpate XP
I personally dont think the aether bomb should be mainboarded but its based on meta.
My question for you is why do you use tezz? ive never seen him in a build before and to me it just seems like a mana loss but with the kci build i guess i can see his prowess. Is he only used as an extra reshape? I think just using wargate would be easier because using the bauble, wargate can be recycled over and over again. Tezz ability can be used once to find kci for the rest of the turn, but by then you could have used that 5 mana to cast other spells.
Thank you for the feedback, I shall try to explain some of my unusual choices.
Why only 2 Nox?
Noxious Revival in my experience is a card we don't want to see all the time and its a card we don't want to draw on a consistant basis, its a card we want to draw when we are almost exhausted and missed our Second Sunrise / Open the Vaults draws, so we can cycle our previous Second Sunrise / Open the Vaults plus lets not forget we are running Conjurer's Bauble which also put cards back into the deck.
Why Tezzy?
Tezzeret the Seeker is here to tutor for KCI for 1 less mana than it would be from a Reshape , I have seen builds on the net use Wargate and every time I do the player talks about how hard it is on the mana base, I wanted to find a card that can act as KCI tutor, although I may just take Tezzeret out and just play 4 Reshape as 1 mana seems neither here nor there, but playing Planeswalkers are always cool.
Why Aether Spellbomb?
Aether Spellbomb is a card that used to live in the sideboard to deal with cards that hurt this deck, both Thalia and Ethersworn Canonist both can be played main deck and both can easily disrupt us game one, so by having Aether Spellbomb main deck we have a serviceable and in our color main range answer instead of wasting Pyrite Spellbomb 's so we can combo out.
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1 year ago ::
Jun 07, 2012 - 2:43PM
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Apr 13, 2012
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@Mise_Mage atleast for me, when i have a sunrise in hand then cast it without a nox in hand, that is the first card i want to draw off of our draw effects either another sunrise or a nox to put it back on top. i always want to draw the nox to keep putting sunrise bak to the top.
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