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13 months ago  ::  May 31, 2012 - 10:51PM #1
meteora1401
Date Joined: Feb 2, 2011
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So I would like to know what people think of flicker
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13 months ago  ::  May 31, 2012 - 11:50PM #2
meteora1401
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The idea is to know what people have been trying and I am also trying to understand the control aspect more for this current meta
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 12:20AM #3
Tarshal
Date Joined: May 21, 2012
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Flicker control? Venser lockdown with stonehorn dignitary. Mix it with blue for control and mill, or go the other way for a more aggressive deck.

It's pretty decent.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 11:27AM #4
ChainedNBeaten
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Well I liked going mono white and fiend hunter and Leonin Relic-Warder with conjurer's closet or venser then stack on cloudshift , restoration angel , or deadeye navigator to permanently exile stuff it was fun not super competitive.
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 01, 2012 - 12:57PM #5
AtomicHiFi
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I have been flickering Acidic Ooze, Blade Splicer, Master Splicer, Glimmerpost (may not seem obvious at first )  all to great effect. White-Green-Blue in that order. To get the mana right you need 4 Caverns and a couple duals and Birds. 4 Ghostly Flicker, 4 Cloudshift and  2 Conjurers Closet.

See my thread in this section called My Friend Flicka 
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 11:30AM #6
meteora1401
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Jun 1, 2012 -- 12:20AM, Tarshal wrote:

Flicker control? Venser lockdown with stonehorn dignitary. Mix it with blue for control and mill, or go the other way for a more aggressive deck.

It's pretty decent.



Yeah that is really good.  Having Venser in the deck makes everything worth wild.

Jun 1, 2012 -- 11:27AM, ChainedNBeaten wrote:

Well I liked going mono white and fiend hunter and Leonin Relic-Warder with conjurer's closet or venser then stack on cloudshift , restoration angel , or deadeye navigator to permanently exile stuff it was fun not super competitive.




I'm still trying to understand how things work with flicker.  Because I know with Zealous Conscripts when they hit the board, I'll take a permanent from my oppenent, and then if I bounce that permanent, I'll gain permanent control.  But how does it work with Fiend hunter what is the timing that needs to happen in order for it to be completely removed from game.  Oh side note if Fiend hunter removes fiend hunter what happens?

Jun 1, 2012 -- 12:57PM, AtomicHiFi wrote:

I have been flickering Acidic Ooze, Blade Splicer, Master Splicer, Glimmerpost (may not seem obvious at first )  all to great effect. White-Green-Blue in that order. To get the mana right you need 4 Caverns and a couple duals and Birds. 4 Ghostly Flicker, 4 Cloudshift and  2 Conjurers Closet.

See my thread in this section called My Friend Flicka 




I would enjoy to see your deck list if that is possible?


So with out anymore crazyness here is my deck list, let me know what you think.  I agree with Atomic that Caverns are a must for this deck.

Lands
3x Plains
4x Islands
2x Forest
3x Cavern of Souls
4x Hinterland Harbor
4x Glacial Fortress
3x Seachrome Coast
1x Rootbound Crag
1x Evolving Wilds


Artifact
2x Ichor Wellspring
3x Sphere of the Suns
3x Pristine Talisman
2x Precursor Golem
1x Spine of Ish Sah
1x Myr Battlesphere

2x Zealous Conscripts
2x Phantasmal Image
2x Borderland Ranger
3x Somberwals Sage
3x Ghostly Flicker
2x Stonehorn Dignitary
2x Venser, the Sojourner
3x Deadeye Navigator
1x Frost Titan
3x Ponder

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13 months ago  ::  Jun 02, 2012 - 1:03PM #7
ChainedNBeaten
Date Joined: Apr 26, 2010
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I cant try to explain, but unless your farmilar with the stack it will be hard to grasp.
The steps:
1) Have fiend hunter enter play (dosent mater how)
2) Target creature your want exiled for good with fiend hunter triggered ability. (creature A)
Now this is where it gets messy
3) Target the hunter with cloud shift or similar effect (BEFORE creature A leaves play but after you target A)
4) The fiend hunter returns to play being a new object. than makes a new target. (creature B)
5) Target B get exiled (it was on the stack last so resolves first)
6) Target A get exiled (it was interupted a bunch of times)
Now what happened was that creature A is exiled but the fiend hunter is not the "same" fiend hunter. This is because it changed zones. So when the fiend hunter leaves only B was exlied with this "new" fiend hunter. The "old" fiend hunters ability goes through even it it left play.

It is overly complex for a simple concept
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13 months ago  ::  Jun 04, 2012 - 9:45PM #8
meteora1401
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I understand that now but what do you think of the deck?
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2012 - 9:51AM #9
ChainedNBeaten
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Jun 4, 2012 -- 9:45PM, meteora1401 wrote:

I understand that now but what do you think of the deck?


Sorry I only use the Internet at work and i just took a vacation. Well think it is ok but not much of a win condition. You only have 4 cards to do damage so looks like you might have and issue with that and your curve is high and fast decks will stomp throw if you can't stall.

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