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13 months ago ::
Jun 01, 2012 - 11:25AM
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Just a thought- How do you know that they will reprint Bolas in his original planeswalker form? They could make a new version... just my 2 cents
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13 months ago ::
Jun 01, 2012 - 12:06PM
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Just a thought- How do you know that they will reprint Bolas in his original planeswalker form? They could make a new version... just my 2 cents
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13 months ago ::
Jun 01, 2012 - 1:11PM
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I'm going to play the Bloodgift Demon over Consecrated Sphinx for two reason - first, is that I currently don't have any Sphinxs, and second, I like being able to drop the Demon on turn 5. If I aqcuire a Sphinx I would most likely play one at least.
Also, I don't think Bolas is entirely unplayable. People play Karn plenty, and Bolas is only 1 more CMC. In a control deck like this Bolas would be a lot more dangerous a drop after turn 10 than a Tamiyo, for example, and the mana should very well be there. This doesn't mean Bolas is better for this kind of build than Tamiyo is mainboard, especially is such an aggro-heavy meta, but a sideboard thought against other control-type decks is not out of the question.
I'm also taking out a Phantasmal Image and bringing in a Wurmcoil.
Residual energetic and psychic emenations from the spark of planewalkers going in and out of the blind eternities like it was a windmill eventually coalesced into beings named eldrazi who by their very nature could not consume mundane sources of nourishment to sustain their existence.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 01, 2012 - 3:50PM
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I'm going to play the Bloodgift Demon over Consecrated Sphinx for two reason - first, is that I currently don't have any Sphinxs, and second, I like being able to drop the Demon on turn 5. If I aqcuire a Sphinx I would most likely play one at least.
Also, I don't think Bolas is entirely unplayable. People play Karn plenty, and Bolas is only 1 more CMC. In a control deck like this Bolas would be a lot more dangerous a drop after turn 10 than a Tamiyo, for example, and the mana should very well be there. This doesn't mean Bolas is better for this kind of build than Tamiyo is mainboard, especially is such an aggro-heavy meta, but a sideboard thought against other control-type decks is not out of the question.
I'm also taking out a Phantasmal Image and bringing in a Wurmcoil.
7 mana is kind of the threshold for playable control finishers in the format Elesh Norn, Karn Liberated etc. Bolas costs 8 which is a big difference to 7 imo I doubt it will see any play outside of EDH as a result.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 01, 2012 - 5:15PM
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7 mana is kind of the threshold for playable control finishers in the format Elesh Norn, Karn Liberated etc. Bolas costs 8 which is a big difference to 7 imo I doubt it will see any play outside of EDH as a result.
So 1 mana is a big difference late game when you have 10+ mana available? I don't see how.
Residual energetic and psychic emenations from the spark of planewalkers going in and out of the blind eternities like it was a windmill eventually coalesced into beings named eldrazi who by their very nature could not consume mundane sources of nourishment to sustain their existence.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 01, 2012 - 7:35PM
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I always liked bolas-play a Grixis control in modern, but modern has more weapons.
If m13 has some cool control cards, stalling for 8 turns may well be doable, but we don't know. Right now, without a steady dig engine in either jace 1.0 and 2.0, we have to rely on draw spells, which takes mana and spell space, which makes it harder to stall till t8, which is why he is currently nigh unplayable.
I hope that changes.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 01, 2012 - 8:13PM
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7 mana is kind of the threshold for playable control finishers in the format Elesh Norn, Karn Liberated etc. Bolas costs 8 which is a big difference to 7 imo I doubt it will see any play outside of EDH as a result.
So 1 mana is a big difference late game when you have 10+ mana available? I don't see how.
Because you need your cards to be good in the midgame. At 10 mana, Tamiyo is just as good as Bolas is; except Tamiyo also has relevance early on.
The difference between 6 and 7 is big; the difference between 7 and 8 is even bigger.
Check out this article for the mathematics behind it: www.channelfireball.com/articles/in-deve...
It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.
It should be about giving black cards to Niche.
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13 months ago ::
Jun 02, 2012 - 5:55PM
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7 mana is kind of the threshold for playable control finishers in the format Elesh Norn, Karn Liberated etc. Bolas costs 8 which is a big difference to 7 imo I doubt it will see any play outside of EDH as a result.
So 1 mana is a big difference late game when you have 10+ mana available? I don't see how.
Because you need your cards to be good in the midgame. At 10 mana, Tamiyo is just as good as Bolas is; except Tamiyo also has relevance early on.
The difference between 6 and 7 is big; the difference between 7 and 8 is even bigger.
Check out this article for the mathematics behind it: www.channelfireball.com/articles/in-deve...
That article is awesome Indigo. Thanks for the read.
While that article is very math heavy, the rule of sligh has always worked for me. It's not quite as complex as said article, but that's okay.
For those that may not know, Sligh was a fast red deck that typically ran lots of fast creatures. RDW is similar to the build of that now. The rule of sligh was 8 one drops for one of them in your opening hand. Did it work all the time? No. Consistently? You bet. If you've ever played RDW and it seemed they always had a Stromkirk Noble  , Grim Lavamancer  , or Spikeshot Elder  ? Chances are, they were playing 8 copies of one drops or more.
If we take that math to land, you would need 24 land to have 3 land in your opening draw and first card drawn. Then you should statistically draw a land in every 2-3 turns (2.47 actually (52 = cards left in your deck/21 number of lands left in your deck. That number should statistically stay the same as you play unless you draw a large land pocket or not. To make the deck have 4 lands in your opening draw, you'd need to play 32 land. And personally, unless 4-6 of those are win con lands, I'd not do that.
So in a 24 land deck after the first draw, you're basically set to draw two land per 5 cards. The 4th land is likely to be there turn 4-6.5, 5th land is there turn 6.5-9, 6th land is there turn 9-11.5, and so on. Is it possible to play your 8th land on 8th turn and hardcast Bolas? Yes. But think about that. Without a mulligan, you have just drew 15 cards from the start of the game. Over HALF of those were lands. Unless you had cards to give you multiple angles of card advantage....like Slagstorm  , Black sun's zenith  , etc, you're probably dead before you cast him. The game probably isn't going to last in this meta long enough to cast him on turn 14-16.5, so that's why.
That's also why Bolas is good for things like EDH. There's more turns there, and you have more life to soak up the damage (not including commander damage, but that depends on how competitive the commmanders chosen are).
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