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1 year ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 7:18PM #1
Sergeant.Wolf
Date Joined: Apr 24, 2012
Posts: 68
No, you didn't read the title wrong. I am brewing a RW control deck which can, hopefully, beat most popular decks. I haven't tried it out yet, still trying to get all the cards. Any suggestions/ advice is welcome. I don't want the price of this deck to get to crazy though.

3 x  Gideon Jura
2 x  Gisela, Blade of Goldnight


3 x  Geistflame
4 x  Pillar of Flame
3 x Day of Judgement
4 x  Whipflare
2 x Slagstorm
3 x Pristine Talisman
3 x  Devil's Play
1 x  Red Sun's Zenith
4 x Oblivion Ring
3 x Timely Reinforcements

4 x Clifftop Retreat
12 x Plains
9 x Mountain    
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1 year ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 8:54PM #2
MrIndigo
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Date Joined: Mar 27, 2003
Posts: 13,427
I am skeptical of Sun Titan's usefulness here. You really have nothing meaningful to reanimate with him. Replace with Entreat the Angels or Bonfire of the Damned or Devil's Play.

I wouldn't run Burning Oil over the extra Pillars; they're really useful against Undying, Gravecrawlers, etc.

You don't really have any card advantage, or any way to really lock up a game. You just remove stuff and then hope your creatures will finish it; if you run out of removal you're liable to be overrun. 

Nov 4, 2010 -- 9:11AM, Niche wrote:

Nov 3, 2010 -- 10:05PM, Razorgore wrote:

It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.



It should be about giving black cards to Niche.

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1 year ago  ::  May 28, 2012 - 9:33PM #3
FiveMinuteCatNap
Date Joined: Oct 17, 2010
Posts: 678
Try taking a look at Caleb Durward's HippoBlade from Pro Tour Dark Ascension. It's pretty old, but you've got a base there.
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1 year ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 6:34AM #4
Sergeant.Wolf
Date Joined: Apr 24, 2012
Posts: 68
Edited it a bit. Thanks for the advice. My main win cons are now: Red Sun's Zenith, Devil's Play, Gisela, and Gideon.
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1 year ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 6:45AM #5
Wynzerman
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2010
Posts: 3,608
You're really short on deck manipulation effects (even Evolving Wilds to thin out the deck and get a shuffle effect). This is really going to work against you in the long run since even with the sweet removal, you're going to want to play most of the game passively. With Pristine Talisman as your only passive setup option, your deck is going to fall short on it's ability to retrieve the kind of power you need at the time you need. That said, I'd cut the Whipflares, Geistflames and a couple of O.Rings for Faithless Looting , Solemn Simulacrum and Reforge the Soul (a single Terminus wouldn't hurt either)


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1 year ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 6:57AM #6
Sergeant.Wolf
Date Joined: Apr 24, 2012
Posts: 68
As much as I know this deck needs those cards, my meta is full of human/ aggro decks, which whipflare/ g-flame help kill.
Do yall think my deck would be stronger if it was artifact heavy, with finishers like Razor Hippogriff and Kuldotha Phoenix
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1 year ago  ::  May 29, 2012 - 9:53AM #7
FiveMinuteCatNap
Date Joined: Oct 17, 2010
Posts: 678

Wynzerman-


1) Someone did the math, and popping fetches for "thinning" is negligable unless you do a large number of them.


2) Faithless looting is horrible in control, it's negative card advantage.


3) I hardly see where this list is optimized for Reforge the Soul.

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