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13 months ago  ::  May 22, 2012 - 2:58PM #21
KeeperofManyNames
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I wasn't even AROUND for Fallen Empires, but that and The Dark have always been among my absolute favorite sets, just because of the flavor. I'm not sure many blocks have matched them since. Possibly just Ravnica, Mirage, Innistrad... only a handful.

I do remember my one friend buying a booster pack of Fallen Empires just for fun when we were first starting out (around Odyssey). He went through the cards (eight--he was expecting fifteen, the poor guy) and at the end, in a bit of a daze, remarked: "No wonder they fell..."
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13 months ago  ::  May 22, 2012 - 3:56PM #22
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May 19, 2012 -- 11:03AM, tanuki-mario wrote:

May 18, 2012 -- 9:49AM, Thrull_Champion wrote:

Despite this troll post, Fallen Empires was a good, and popular set when first released, it just hasn't aged well.






I think you meant to say Hymn to Tourach .



You can't justify a set with a single decent card. You may as well argue that Homelands was good because it had Serrated Arrows (one of less than 3 remotely playable cards in the entire set, and it's not even THAT good.)

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13 months ago  ::  May 22, 2012 - 4:15PM #23
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No, Homelands was good because it had a respectful power level. Nothing was ruined by Homelands, nor obsoleted.

As for what Tanuki Mario was saying, he was basically saying that the whole of Fallen Empires sucked except for one card. Dunno what you're going on about...

Homelands had two of the best creatures in the game at the time.

@KeeperofManyNames: I consider the "silver age" of The Dark-Alliances to be the best of times for Magic cards. Really wish they'd kept to the design philosophies behind those sets. I don't have a better time than when I'm running some Tresserhorn vs. Kjeldor decks or what have you.

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13 months ago  ::  May 22, 2012 - 6:40PM #24
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What were the alleged best creatures in the game at the time?

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13 months ago  ::  May 22, 2012 - 7:15PM #25
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May 22, 2012 -- 6:40PM, Iam_IronMan wrote:


What were the alleged best creatures in the game at the time?




Autumn Willow and Ihsan's Shade . They were awesome on top of being sexy. Too bad they don't uphold a flavor=power level metric anymore...

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13 months ago  ::  May 22, 2012 - 9:40PM #26
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Man, I love how most of the flavor text from Homelands comes from people saying things about their enemies. It's a really fascinating dynamic that we haven't really seen anywhere else in such full force, and it does a lot for the theme of a steadily escalating conflict... Yeah, I have to agree, there's a lot of cool stuff back in the Silver Age, if you just see past power levels to the many, many other aspects of a set.

Neo Mint, have you seen the Illustrated, Annotated Homelands Document? I feel like you would appreciate it. It's something we put together a while ago for the Expanded Multiverse project from original sources within WotC from that period... I wish more people would read through it. It's a damn cool piece of Magic's history, and it really explains the flavor behind a lot of cards.
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13 months ago  ::  May 22, 2012 - 10:49PM #27
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May 22, 2012 -- 9:40PM, KeeperofManyNames wrote:

Man, I love how most of the flavor text from Homelands comes from people saying things about their enemies. It's a really fascinating dynamic that we haven't really seen anywhere else in such full force, and it does a lot for the theme of a steadily escalating conflict... Yeah, I have to agree, there's a lot of cool stuff back in the Silver Age, if you just see past power levels to the many, many other aspects of a set.

Neo Mint, have you seen the Illustrated, Annotated Homelands Document? I feel like you would appreciate it. It's something we put together a while ago for the Expanded Multiverse project from original sources within WotC from that period... I wish more people would read through it. It's a damn cool piece of Magic's history, and it really explains the flavor behind a lot of cards.





What a read! Thanks. 

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13 months ago  ::  May 23, 2012 - 4:25AM #28
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May 22, 2012 -- 4:15PM, NeoMint wrote:

No, Homelands was good because it had a respectful power level. Nothing was ruined by Homelands, nor obsoleted.

As for what Tanuki Mario was saying, he was basically saying that the whole of Fallen Empires sucked except for one card. Dunno what you're going on about...

Homelands had two of the best creatures in the game at the time.

@KeeperofManyNames: I consider the "silver age" of The Dark-Alliances to be the best of times for Magic cards. Really wish they'd kept to the design philosophies behind those sets. I don't have a better time than when I'm running some Tresserhorn vs. Kjeldor decks or what have you.

@Wynzerman: Glad you like it. Smile 






Yup, only Homelands could wreck Homelands Apocalypse Chime .  Even if it is somewhat ridiculous I miss that kind of cards. 

    


   

My decks, mostly casuals, but some I use online with some small changes:

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13 months ago  ::  May 23, 2012 - 5:06AM #29
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May 23, 2012 -- 4:25AM, Beniwiwi wrote:

May 22, 2012 -- 4:15PM, NeoMint wrote:

No, Homelands was good because it had a respectful power level. Nothing was ruined by Homelands, nor obsoleted.

As for what Tanuki Mario was saying, he was basically saying that the whole of Fallen Empires sucked except for one card. Dunno what you're going on about...

Homelands had two of the best creatures in the game at the time.

@KeeperofManyNames: I consider the "silver age" of The Dark-Alliances to be the best of times for Magic cards. Really wish they'd kept to the design philosophies behind those sets. I don't have a better time than when I'm running some Tresserhorn vs. Kjeldor decks or what have you.

@Wynzerman: Glad you like it. Smile 






Yup, only Homelands could wreck Homelands Apocalypse Chime .  Even if it is somewhat ridiculous I miss that kind of cards. 

    


   




They really oughta make a card that destroys all cards printed past 1996 with a card like that. It'd do a nice job obsoleting the obsolescence nicely.

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