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Switch to Forum Live View 05/18/2012 LD: "Mixed Bag, Part 2"
1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 5:22PM #1
Garmichael
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Latest Developments, which goes live Friday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 9:42PM #2
Zindaras
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I would say it should be "highest power-to-look ratio" or "lowest look-to-power ratio." Now it sounds like it looks good but plays badly.

Dec 1, 2010 -- 10:06AM, ProphetKing wrote:

Zindaras' meta is like a fossil, ancient and its secrets yet to be uncovered. Only men of yore, long dead, knew of it.

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 10:13PM #3
chronego
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The way we are envisioning it right now, green falls quite a bit behind colors like black and red in terms of its ability to just kill a creature. But we're trying to give it the tools to leverage its creatures to fight those on the other side—and to leverage its size advantage into something meaningful.


I hope this means you're looking into ways to help Green push damage through. It sorely lacks evasion.

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 11:11PM #4
silpheed_tandy
Date Joined: Jul 15, 2011
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i know it might be not expected in a development column, but one of the things that make me look forward to fridays so i can read zac's column is that he puts so much of his goofy personality into it! i grinned when thinking of pigs with little wings, or the image of zac getting pummelled by vexing devils repeatedly, or zac's outright admission (which we all would think of if he never mentioned it!) of how similar this looks to the much-beloved (and much-dislike-aimed-at-him at times??) face of M:TG PR, Mr Rosewater. i've always loved goofy humor, and though i'm sad that Doug Beyer has left the team, i'm delighted and tickled that Zac has joined! who knew reading about development could be so entertaining?
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1 year ago  ::  May 18, 2012 - 4:33AM #5
Pseudolias
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I expected I would enjoy today's column, and I did!  :D
You're not Doug Beyer, nor the Savor the Flavor column or a replacement for it, but you are a rival in quality, and I hope to see more of your columns like this again, Zac Hill!  If a Savor the Flavor column does return, this kind of feature would be nice.  I want to know about Hound of Griselbrand from creative's standpoint!
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1 year ago  ::  May 18, 2012 - 4:53AM #6
rmsgrey
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I mentioned this in last week's thread too: I miss the multiverse comment trawls - while it's interesting getting one man's view of a set, it's also interesting to get a cross-section of R&D's views (and a glimpse of some of the byplay involved in development).

It's possible that Latest Developments isn't the right place for them (though the only other "obvious" slot is the Feature Article) but it would be nice to see them come back.
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1 year ago  ::  May 18, 2012 - 5:45AM #7
TobyornotToby
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Hmm, I would've liked Reforge the Soul better with a miracle cost of :2r: to mirror Wheel of Fortune , just like the Time Walk thingy.
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1 year ago  ::  May 18, 2012 - 6:49AM #8
Senyuno
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The  manacost can be tough to grasp—there haven't been a huge number of tournament staples like it—but your up-front deal (most often  for 2 damage's worth of [card]Flame Wave[/card]) isn't usually all that bad in the matchups you want it.



After Archwing Dragon and its story, this part also made me realize what I like about this game is that you guys dig deep. You have extensive memory of what cards there, which have been great, and which have been subpar. Then you seek out to give an old dog new tricks, but make sure that one isn't strictly better than the other-- each card has their applications. The new one may be arguably better, but rarely do you make cards that are strictly better in every way to another. I appreciate that level of research and the explanations for the costs of new cards.




Burn at the Stake



I love reading "three times", "deals damage to target creature or player equal to three times..."



Descendants' Path



Fantastic story.



Avacyn Restored Limited features several powerful Equipment, and this card was originally envisioned to offer a narrow but potent solution to those. With Standard being defined, to a degree, by certain other fliers wielding certain other Pikes and Swords, I expect this card to make at least a few sideboard appearances.



1) I don't get this limited tool, TBH. It just doesn't do anything narrowly. It's flying hate, that's what it's for. It's unbelievably rare that I have trouble with both a nasty creature and a nasty equipment. The reason? Because the "several powerful equipment" you mention don't exist. Equipment is kind of rare, even in sealed. There are two situations:
...a) Moonsilver Spear . I need to deal with the equipment. Did they put it on a flying creature? Probably not... I can handle the Thraben Valiant on my own; I need Demolish

...b) A nasty flyer needs to be answered. Probably not even equipped. Maybe a Voice of the Provinces with Bladed Bracers ? I need an answer to the flyer... I mean, thanks for the narrow incremental advantage interaction, but Thunderbolt would've been just fine.

2) Constructed? Possibly. Delver. Aha. Ahaa. It's awful. Delver equipped? Yeah that happens almost never. You know what's equipped? Traft or Stalker ... good luck with that. Well, maybe it's on a token! Again, thanks for the incremental advantage on that token... CVines is just better .



Somberwald Sage



Go for t3rd GaGa .



Ulvenwald Tracker



Fight is a good solution to green's problems. Although, it needs more so it has reasonable solutions to fliers. The situation is nothing like blue, who solved bad creatures by making under-costed Clones and the best creatures mana can be spent on. 

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1 year ago  ::  May 18, 2012 - 6:55AM #9
bob_the_wonder_Beeble
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As I'm sure everyone's been able to tell with decks like Burning Vengeance and Gnaw to the Bone in Innistrad draft, we're trying to make certain aspects of Limited a little more "Constructed-like" in terms of archetypes, strategies, and power along a linear axis (which is basically a fancy way of saying "do something very specific very well").



If I wanted to play constructed, I'd play constructed. Bring back real limited!

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1 year ago  ::  May 18, 2012 - 7:49AM #10
DragonMudd
Date Joined: Feb 5, 2003
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I don't see Wolfir Silverheart as a "sleeper hit". I got the impression a LOT of people were talking about it for a while, and they certainly still are, especially after last weekend.
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