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1 year ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 4:47PM #1
Garmichael
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Top Decks article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 2:10AM #2
carrionpigeons
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There isn't really a good answer to Silverheart in block.  I mean, yeah, you can play bounce or black removal, but then you have to ask why you aren't just playing green yourself.  UGw spirits basically does exactly that, running both Silverheart hate and Silverheart.  There's no reason not to - it's too good of a card, and the colors with decent answers (blue and black) are the colors with the best mana fixing for a green deck (thanks to Hinterland Harbor and Woodland Cemetary).

Naya can't beat Silverheart, so it maxes them out itself.  Hallelujah, while it has a good matchup against Naya, has an awful matchup against UGw - for precisely the reason that it can't leverage Feeling of Dread - and if Finkel had had any practice against it, he should have been able to take Hayne down pretty easily (also Hallelujah is way too hard of a deck to play for it to catch on as a major competitor in the metagame, even if it weren't poorly positioned now that people are prepared for it).  I guess reanimator could sideboard in some answers, but reanimator isn't usually winning if it has to be reactive, so either a transformative sideboard into some kind of control deck, or else not bothering, would be the only realistic ways to go with that, imo.

I hate Silverheart as a design, but I'm resigned to the fact that it's going to be the dominant card in the format for as long as it exists.  There is simply no deck that's fast enough or interactive enough to both justify not playing it, while still being able to answer it.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 6:09AM #3
Highwayman
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So... putting the three chase mythics of the set with a combined playset value of over $300 into the same deck turned out to be a good thing. Who knew?

Actually, I applaud Hayne's deckbuilding skills. As much as jamming the chase mythics of the block into a "good stuff" deck has become very de rigeur, and 4 x time walk , 4 x Jace lite and 4 x better decree of justice seems like a good place to start, I think his build is actually very clever indeed. The real genius was the use of feeling of dread . Good for him.

Otherwise I suppose you could have gone for naya mythics , bant mythics or four color mythics . These were more obvious extensions of standard which is another reason why Hayne deserves credit.

Not surprisingly the cavern of souls , being the best archetype hoser and the best mana fixer of the block all on the same card with almost no drawbacks had a bloated appearance and will make it very hard for the casual player to pick up.

I think I'll be pleased when block is over and the price taggery for casual players comes down a few notches.

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 11:08AM #4
Jaxshan
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Am I the Only One who sees the resemblance of Alexander Hayne to our toothy friend Psychatog?

 
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 11:42AM #5
JohnQMtgplayer
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Silverheart? For block, that's tough. Fiend Hunter, Smite the Montrous, Appetite for Brains....Evil Twin? Otherwise, for standard, it's easier using some instant-speed bounce.

I will say, good job on Wizards. For the first time in a while, you have a huge variety of options at Standard, and I love it. There isn't just Deck A and anti-Deck A. I think it's possible that this time next year, after the poison block rotates, and Ravnica is wrapping up, it could be one of the best times in the history of magic, for Standard.
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 11:51AM #6
HairlessThoctar
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May 17, 2012 -- 11:08AM, Jaxshan wrote:

Am I the Only One who sees the resemblance of Alexander Hayne to our toothy friend Psychatog?

 




What has been seen, cannot be unseen.

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 3:38PM #7
tamrian
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Very disappointed that you missed an opportunity for allusion. 

"It would take a miracle. Bye, bye." ~ Billy Crystal as Miracle Max in The Princess Bride

Otherwise, excellent article as usual. 
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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 4:44PM #8
Thalatta
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Ugh...these decks are NOT Naya or Bant decks. They just aren't. "Werewolves and Angels" tells you their colors anyway, AND tells you what they actually do. Same with "Geists" - the white in there is just for Mr. St. Traft; it's not Bant-y at all. (Even "Reanimator" isn't the whole story, either, but whatever.) Plus, both non-shard names sound cooler. :P

Am I the Only One who sees the resemblance of Alexander Hayne to our toothy friend Psychatog?



o___O

Too bad his deck wasn't blue-black.

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1 year ago  ::  May 17, 2012 - 8:50PM #9
Amarsir
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May 17, 2012 -- 6:09AM, Highwayman wrote:

Actually, I applaud Hayne's deckbuilding skills. As much as jamming the chase mythics of the block into a "good stuff" deck has become very de rigeur, and 4 x time walk , 4 x Jace lite and 4 x better decree of justice seems like a good place to start, I think his build is actually very clever indeed. The real genius was the use of feeling of dread . Good for him.



It was very well done.  He certainly knew how to use them too - I wouldn't have assumed that using it to tap the opponent's t1 Avacyn's Pilgrim was correct unless I knew the opp was also going to miss land drops.  But that turned out to be a common t2 play for him.


Unfortunately, Hayne also had 1x Dissipate in his main deck. So I'm fully prepared for months of bad players going "big deal, you just counter everything", followed by a development article about how Dissipate is overpowered.

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1 year ago  ::  May 18, 2012 - 2:31AM #10
silpheed_tandy
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i am pleased to see angel's mercy in the winning deck's sideboard. i have a soft spot for that card, and it goes against the grain of everyone saying that angel's mercy is only useful in limitted (or not even useful there, either). 
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