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Switch to Forum Live View 05/16/2012 BoaB: "Budget Reanimator"
1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 4:57PM #1
Garmichael
Date Joined: Jun 24, 2008
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Building on a Budget, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 9:15PM #2
ckfishead
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Clearly the secret to the original Frites list is the ability to play 6 Unburial Rites.
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 9:28PM #3
greg9381
Date Joined: Sep 1, 2010
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I often don't have much of anything good to say about these decks, but this seems great to me. It's a shame that you need 4 (5)  colors, but I agree that you can't really function without a lot of ways to dump guys into the graveyard.
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 10:03PM #4
Singularity26
Date Joined: May 15, 2012
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It's late and maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't the Behemoth and three 1/1s be 24 points of damage?

Behemoth's ability adds 4/4 since there are 4 creatures on the board.

Behemoth 5/5 + 4/4 = 9/9
Each 1/1 + 4/4 = 5/5

15 + 9 = 24

Don't care if I'm wrong, but I'd like to know what I'm missing if it is 27 as he says.
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 10:09PM #5
Strange_Adams
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2012
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budget deck that won't cost me a hundred dollars to pull together?
From Jacob van Lunen?
What a shock! 
If Wizards put hundred dollar bills in each pack, players would complain that they weren't folded right.
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 10:12PM #6
MasterOGA
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May 15, 2012 -- 10:03PM, Singularity26 wrote:

It's late and maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't the Behemoth and three 1/1s be 24 points of damage?

Behemoth's ability adds 4/4 since there are 4 creatures on the board.

Behemoth 5/5 + 4/4 = 9/9
Each 1/1 + 4/4 = 5/5

15 + 9 = 24

Don't care if I'm wrong, but I'd like to know what I'm missing if it is 27 as he says.


Yeah he's wrong.  I came here to see if anyone else noticed lol

There is no tighter shirt!
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 10:43PM #7
IntrnetHte
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Ah well, still enough damage to win :D

Interesting...can't believe I didn't see the Behemoth before!
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1 year ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 2:17AM #8
ShardFenix
Date Joined: Mar 2, 2005
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1) Learn to math...."If you have three 1/1s in play and Craterhoof Behemoth enters the battlefield on your side of the table, you're going to be attacking for 27 trample damage. That's probably good enough to lock up victory." this equals 24 not 27.

2) Frites becomes much much worse without the expensive manabase.  Mainly because then you aren't as fast and game changing.
I like fun, but competitive decks.  So I might not play what is optimal but they have normally been tested to have a 2/3 winrate.
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1 year ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 3:11AM #9
coien
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I'd just like to say that I think this deck should be called Rainbow Brites. (5 color + Budget-Rites.) That is all.
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1 year ago  ::  May 16, 2012 - 3:40AM #10
BlindMessiah
Date Joined: Apr 5, 2012
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May 15, 2012 -- 9:15PM, ckfishead wrote:

Clearly the secret to the original Frites list is the ability to play 6 Unburial Rites.




Indeed, saw that and I lol'd. Poor JVL. This time, in his defence, he just copy + pasted the original decklist, which had the error in the firstplace.

Also, his math skills clearly need work on this one from his poor Behemoth arithmetic. (not that mine is much better mind you)


Well, the deck is okay I guess. I honestly think it's too slow for standard though, and with no removals/bombs, I doubt it will go off fast enough for the win most of the time.

But I wish to adress this quote from the end of his article:


"Be sure to shoot me an email or hit the forums with any questions or comments. I'm always looking for feedback and future column ideas!"

JVL

I will ask again, as I have asked every week:

Please, do an article on BUDGET mana solutions. I feel like every time I try to make a deck, I come up with these awesome ideas and then run into the usual "Oh crap, every friggin land out there that fixes my mana is extremely expensive (Duals), or messes up my tempo (CIPT) or has some hugely disadvantageous drawback (IE - Tarnished Citadel). I would love to see this issue adressed, and what you would go about looking at when constructing a deck and having an extremeley slim budget. Hopefully it's something more in depth than "splash green". I understand different decks probably have different mana solutions, but regardless, I'd love to hear your take on it. Mana is so important in magic, and I feel like I lose to other decks a lot just because they can afford $12 lands and I can't.


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