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1 year ago ::
May 17, 2012 - 7:11PM
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It's been expensive for ages. If anything, it's become MORE affordable lately, since all the good creatures have been printed rather recently.
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1 year ago ::
May 17, 2012 - 8:01PM
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Now is probably one of the cheaper opt in times in a bit.
Old favourites like Goblins and Merfolk would have decended to low prices.
The top contenders are currently very stocked up on newer creatures.
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1 year ago ::
May 18, 2012 - 8:47AM
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@Iam_IronMan: I'm pretty sure the jury's come back on Browbeat and it's not good news. It's pretty mcuh the definition of a trap now days. Considering that it would be the most expensive card in Burn, it's not worth the slots.
Vexing Devil differs only slightly from Browbeat, but it's the same trap. Yes, you want a 4/3 for 1 and you'd want 4 damage for 1. However, you don't want 4 damage against an opponent who doesn't care about the life and you don't want a 4/3 against an opponent who can deal with it easily (and a 4/3 doesn't garuantee that the opponent takes 4 damage). Unfortunately, that's what you'll be getting a vast amount of the time, a card that gives you an unwanted effect.
The verdict on Browbeat is mostly because Browbeat is simply far too expensive for Legacy. In the ol' Extended it was moderately viable, but it still provided the fault of "choice". Though, in comparison to Vexing Devil, it is vastly superior as far as effect.
One of the strong points of burn is that removal becomes dead. You begin to include creatures into that, and you make all of those otherwise "dead" cards in their hand become useful. Vexing Devil surely dies, and your opponent has wasted a card that was wasted anyway. Either that, or they take four damage. Which, if it was straight up 1cc = 4dmg, that'd be nice (not fan-****ing-tastic), but it's not.
On the other hand, Browbeat provides five damage for 3cc or draws three cards. Neither of those are a bad thing. They're simply lessened by the choice.
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1 year ago ::
May 18, 2012 - 9:36PM
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But burn lists aren't creatureless right now. There's at the very least Goblin Guide, probably more depending on the list, and almost always enough that their removal isn't dead. My own burn deck runs 11 creatures (none that kill themselves), and I've added 2 Devils to test.
And you don't want to drop him turn one. Go to turn 3 or 4 when you've already played some burn, they've used a couple removal on your Guides and whatnot, and you have a couple cards left in hand. Then it's a much harder decision than turn 1, take 4. They have to weigh dropping into Fireblast range vs hoping they can get enough removal.
I still have plenty of testing to do, but I think he'll be good.
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1 year ago ::
May 19, 2012 - 5:21AM
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But burn lists aren't creatureless right now. There's at the very least Goblin Guide, probably more depending on the list, and almost always enough that their removal isn't dead. My own burn deck runs 11 creatures (none that kill themselves), and I've added 2 Devils to test.
Feel like posting your list? That sounds very much like RDW...
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1 year ago ::
May 19, 2012 - 11:13AM
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1 year ago ::
May 19, 2012 - 1:38PM
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1 year ago ::
May 19, 2012 - 5:52PM
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That is more Satanic Sligh/Red Deck Wins than it is burn. By far.
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1 year ago ::
May 19, 2012 - 11:38PM
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That is more Satanic Sligh/Red Deck Wins than it is burn. By far.
There are 25 burn spells. Plus 7 cheap creatures with haste (some conditionally), then 7 card draw effects, some of which attack. Replace Confidant and Bloodghast with something like Hellspark Elemental  and Keldon Marauders  and it's a typical burn list. The Looting is unusual, but between that and Confidant I see a lot more cards than the average burn deck. And of course it's awesome when I get a Bloodghast with it.
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1 year ago ::
May 20, 2012 - 1:54AM
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There are 25 burn spells. Plus 7 cheap creatures with haste (some conditionally), then 7 card draw effects, some of which attack.
This count does not differ in any way from RDW/Satanic Sligh. However, 25% of your deck is atypical with regards to Burn.
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