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1 year ago ::
May 12, 2012 - 9:45PM
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Um, the Aristocrat sac thing doesn't work. The sacrifice part is part of the cost of the ability, so the Artists are gone before the effect hits the stack. Sac Artists to Aristocrat last, which doesn't work with multiple Artists like you describe. Still, Wave is spectacular. Guy played Timely Reinforcements and I had about 5 land in play, and I just laughed and laughed. Or the time a guy was at 7 with a Stalker+Pike in play, so I played Wave for X=6...and he took the six. I top-decked a Verdict the next turn.  Yeah, I kept a hand with Cliffs, Crawler, Diregraf, Verdict, and three Volleys. That game was awesome. Seriously, this deck is the funnest thing I've played in ages. Updated list: ZOMBICIDE-Creatures-
4x Diregraf Ghoul  4x Gravecrawler  4x Blood Artist  4x Geralf's Messenger  4x Falkenrath Aristocrat  3x Phyrexian Metamorph  2x Fume Spitter  2x Highborn Ghoul  Total: 27 -Spells-3x Brimstone Volley  2x Killing Wave  2x Tragic Slip  2x Geth's Verdict  Total: 9 -Artifacts-
2x Mortarpod  Total: 2 -Land-
3x Cavern of Souls  4x Blackcleave Cliffs  4x Dragonskull Summit  11x Swamp  Total: 22 TCD: 60 -Sideboard-
3x Despise  3x Crypt Creeper  3x Act of Aggression  2x Surgical Extraction  2x Go for the Throat  2x Pillar of Flame  Total: 15 I definitely prefer the Highborn MD; the Intimidate is better than you'd think, but then, I only run 2 MD. I like this SB so far, though I'm still iffy on Despise. I need to test how good it is, but I'm never sure where to SB it in or for what. 
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 1:21AM
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I feel Cavern is bad...you will lose tempo. I don't think it is needed
Highborn is fine but not the best right now. Most is choosing this guy Porcelain Legionnaire as best 2 drop
You should try out Perilous Myr....it is a bomb
I love Phyrexian Metamorph but when you have Blood Artist...you gotta bring alot of drops not big drops. This is Blood Artist deck not Zombie anymore
SB should have Ratchet Bomb if you have serious problem with Sword or Tokens even Crusader also try Corrosive Gale to stop token flyers and Delver. Nihil is needed or Surgical...whatever you think it is best. Nihil is my choice as best
What you think of my list at #17
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 2:06AM
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Why not barter in blood over killing wave?
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 2:42AM
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Why not barter in blood over killing wave?
Barter in Blood does not hit the face.
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 5:39AM
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I feel Cavern is bad...you will lose tempo. I don't think it is needed
How would I be losing tempo?? It comes into play untapped and helps Messenger and Aristocrat avoid Mana Leak. It's also another mana-fixer for Aristocrat when necessary. There is very little downside to running it, sir, and Tempo is definitely not one of those when only 9 of the cards in my deck aren't helped by it.
Highborn is fine but not the best right now. Most is choosing this guy Porcelain Legionnaire as best 2 drop
Legionnaire is a big target, costs you life you might not be able to afford later on in a game (especially not with the Suicide route I'm taking), and it has no Evasion.
Evasion>Power almost every time.
I love Phyrexian Metamorph but when you have Blood Artist...you gotta bring alot of drops not big drops. This is Blood Artist deck not Zombie anymore
Incorrect. Blood Artist and Killing Wave are simply additions to help a deck along that has already proven itself to be at least Tier 2, if not better. Zombie decks were already fairly excellent, but these additions give them two things: Mass Removal for Tokens in Killing Wave (Token Chump Blockers was a serious problem before) and a decent 2-drop in Blood Artist (of which Highborn is the only decent one, and even then...).
SB should have Ratchet Bomb if you have serious problem with Sword or Tokens even Crusader also try Corrosive Gale to stop token flyers and Delver. Nihil is needed or Surgical...whatever you think it is best. Nihil is my choice as best
I'll definitely give those Ratchets a try, but I think 22 mana base might make using Gale effectively a problem.
What you think of my list at #17
Your curve is a bit odd; I'd go the B/u route with a slower curve. I'd think the Captain would be better than Soulcage Fiend.
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 9:04AM
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I'll definitely give those Ratchets a try, but I think 22 mana base might make using Gale effectively a problem.
An X=2 kills everything that flies. How is that hard?
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 9:09AM
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I'll definitely give those Ratchets a try, but I think 22 mana base might make using Gale effectively a problem.
An X=2 kills everything that flies. How is that hard?
I would say X=3 is probably closer to what you will be paying on average. Only because I can definitely see the spirit Delver lists running Drogskol Captain  , Phantasmal Image  and Favorable Winds  catching on.
I tend to agree though, more often than not you should never have to pay more then 4 for X, and even those situations should be pretty rare.
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1 year ago ::
May 13, 2012 - 1:21PM
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Honestly, I've only tested a few games against Delver, but it's already a favorable matchup with Zombies; too many efficient kill cards for them to handle with so few threats (Spitter is a house).
Still, I'm definitely messing around with my SB, and I'll leave Gale as an option to test out.
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1 year ago ::
May 15, 2012 - 1:46PM
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As much as I like B/R, I feel U/B offers a little bit more to this style of deck. This list is my U/B zombies list minus the Phyrexian Obliterator  and Liliana of the Veil  . I didn't commit to the Blood Artist fully, but instead used the card to compliment what already existed. Which is why you only see 3 copies. Also, I don't think Cavern is worth it at all. Anyways, here it is: 3 x Blood Artist 3 x Diregraf Captain  4 x Diregraf Ghoul 4 x Geralf's Messenger 4 x Gravecrawler 4 x Phantasmal Image 2 x Soulcage Fiend  3 x Geth's Verdict 2 x Killing Wave 2 x Mortarpod 3 x Smallpox  4 x Tragic Slip 4 x Darkslick Shores  4 x Drowned Catacomb  14 x Swamp Board: 2 x Crypt Creeper 3 x Distress  2 x Go for the Throat 3 x Ratchet Bomb  2 x Sever the Bloodline  1 x Smallpox 2 x Surgical Extraction
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1 year ago ::
May 16, 2012 - 2:03PM
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Tempo is the name of the game currently, as control and combo are very weak right now. This does generate good tempo, and I see all the cute little interactions, some seem a bit overly complex, but all are doable for sure. Messenger and gravecrawler, houses for sure. The consistent life swing off blood artist is cool too, and you are set up to always be on the winning side of a killing wave. Sandbox testing looks solid, but how are your real life matchups? I don't see this beating delver, still the king. Wolf run may give you problems as u cant effectively suppress Inkmoth or wolf run, but the MU should be more doable. This does look very solid against reanimator, and most everything else tho. But getting to the top does mean beating what's already there. I'd just like to know how it fares, especially vs delver. The T1 delver+all the bounce and counters...real hard.
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