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1 year ago ::
May 10, 2012 - 10:01AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2005
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Creatures:
4x Fume Spitter
4x Grave Grawler
2x Diregraf Ghoul
4x Blood Artist
4x Geralf's Messenger
4x Phyrexian Metamorph
2x Soulcage Fiend
3x Falkenrath Aristocrat
1x Skinrender
1x Falkenrath Noble
Other:
3x Tragic Slip
2x Bone Splinters
3x Killing Wave
1x Smallpox
Land:
4x Dragonskull Summit
3x Blackcleafe Cliffs
15x Swamp
I feel like this deck is pretty good. I have done some testing and in my experience this deck just gets there. It often gets there by its teeth but it does. I guess I should explain some interactions:
Fume Spitter + Geralf's Messenger: I'm sure quite a few of you are familiar with this. Messenger dies, comes back with a +1/+1 counter and then sacrifice Fume Spitter to take off the counter. Sometimes you will want to, sometimes you won't but just having the option there is pretty nice.
Bone Splinters + Geralf's Messenger: Swing with the messenger, they choose not to block so they don't lose their creature. Then afterwords Splinters sacrificing your messenger to take out their guy. They lose another 2 life and they lose their creature.
Bone Splinters + Gravecrawler + Another Zombie: Basically, you just splinters their guy and you replay gravecrawler. Seems merely decent to some people but with a blood artist out this whole thing becomes a neat interaction for some life.
Falkenrath Aristocrat + Gravecrawler + Zombie + Blood Artist: This is a rather complex interaction but it comes up a bit more than you would think. You basically can just drain them for one life according to how much B you have.
Killing Wave: I'm betting some of you are questioning this. This is the only deck where I would consider playing it. Every time I have played it in testing I ask myself whether I want Black Sun instead. I often find not so much. Imagine a board where I have a blood artist, a geralf's messenger, and a gravecrawler. I swing with messenger and gravecrawler. They take 5. Killing wave for 3. I pay 3 to keep in Blood Artist while I sacrifice Messenger and Gravecrawler. I drain them for 2 with blood artist. 7. Undying for Messenger, they take another 2 which is 9 damage total this turn. If they choose to keep say... a mirran crusader they take 3 more which brings the damage to 12. If they sacrificed 2 more creatures, I drain them for 2 more. So in essence they have taken 12 this turn and I gained one with a blood artist and a messenger in play as well as a gravecrawler sitting in the graveyard which is going to be played next turn. The next 8 life won't be so hard and if I had hit with a gravecrawler T1 they would be at 6. The Messenger came down the turn earlier so they would be sitting at 4. At this point, a Fume Spitter, Aristocrat, Metamorph, and a slew of other cards is lethal.
Had it been a Black Sun, I would not have a Blood Artist out which is something I think I like better. Anyways, Black Sun is correct in a number of situations which is why I'm thinking of -1 Killing Wave +1 Black Sun.
I really wanted a 3rd drop so I put Soulcage Fiend in. I put them in because it beats for 3 and if they decide to kill it, I'm fine because they lose another 3 life. It isn't Messenger 5-6 like I wish it could be but they get the job done more often than not.
Having 2 Blood Artist is not unreasonable considering the metamorphs. I wanted another drain effect so I put in one aristocrat but that may be up for discussion.
So thoughts?
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1 year ago ::
May 10, 2012 - 10:07AM
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- UnCon Prizewinner 2008
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Date Joined:
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I love Blood Artist. Love Blood Artist. However, I've toyed around with it a bit myself and, at least with my variants, my decks just didn't function as well without Blood Artist. I don't know if it's the same with you, but without any available tutors, I'd suggest trying to include Blood Artist as a suppliment rather than a core. That said, I like the build in general. I can't really say much beyond personal tweaking and testing. ... except for Altar's Reap  . It's absolutely house and you currently have no solid card advantage. Edit: I just wanted to confirm this before I posted... Metamorph is better with Messenger thanks to the undying.
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1 year ago ::
May 10, 2012 - 10:27AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2005
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I love Blood Artist. Love Blood Artist. However, I've toyed around with it a bit myself and, at least with my variants, my decks just didn't function as well without Blood Artist. I don't know if it's the same with you, but without any available tutors, I'd suggest trying to include Blood Artist as a suppliment rather than a core.
That said, I like the build in general. I can't really say much beyond personal tweaking and testing.
... except for Altar's Reap . It's absolutely house and you currently have no solid card advantage.
Edit: I just wanted to confirm this before I posted... Metamorph is better with Messenger thanks to the undying.
The Aristocrat lets the deck get there without Blood Artist and with all of the Messenger/Gravecrawler shenanigans the deck still gets there without it. All of the cards in the deck are still good without Blood Artist down. It just goes insane if I manage to land it. I really tried to make the deck work without one out and I feel like I succeeded.
Altar's Reap is interesting. I think it might be worth trying out then.
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1 year ago ::
May 10, 2012 - 10:29AM
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What about Mortarpod? gives you reach with blood artist/noble, plays well with gravecrawler, etc.
Ive been trying out something similar in B/G, using mortarpod, typhoid rats, ambush viper, and perilous myr to interact with artist/noble and kill their dudes (DT and mortarpod are fun!).
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1 year ago ::
May 11, 2012 - 9:02AM
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Date Joined:
Jan 12, 2012
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Creatures:
4x Fume Spitter
4x Grave Grawler
2x Diregraf Ghoul
4x Blood Artist
4x Geralf's Messenger
4x Phyrexian Metamorph
2x Soulcage Fiend
3x Falkenrath Aristocrat
1x Skinrender
1x Falkenrath Noble
Other:
3x Tragic Slip
2x Bone Splinters
3x Killing Wave
1x Smallpox
Land:
4x Dragonskull Summit
3x Blackcleafe Cliffs
15x Swamp
I feel like this deck is pretty good. I have done some testing and in my experience this deck just gets there. It often gets there by its teeth but it does. I guess I should explain some interactions:
Fume Spitter + Geralf's Messenger: I'm sure quite a few of you are familiar with this. Messenger dies, comes back with a +1/+1 counter and then sacrifice Fume Spitter to take off the counter. Sometimes you will want to, sometimes you won't but just having the option there is pretty nice.
Bone Splinters + Geralf's Messenger: Swing with the messenger, they choose not to block so they don't lose their creature. Then afterwords Splinters sacrificing your messenger to take out their guy. They lose another 2 life and they lose their creature.
Bone Splinters + Gravecrawler + Another Zombie: Basically, you just splinters their guy and you replay gravecrawler. Seems merely decent to some people but with a blood artist out this whole thing becomes a neat interaction for some life.
Falkenrath Aristocrat + Gravecrawler + Zombie + Blood Artist: This is a rather complex interaction but it comes up a bit more than you would think. You basically can just drain them for one life according to how much B you have.
Killing Wave: I'm betting some of you are questioning this. This is the only deck where I would consider playing it. Every time I have played it in testing I ask myself whether I want Black Sun instead. I often find not so much. Imagine a board where I have a blood artist, a geralf's messenger, and a gravecrawler. I swing with messenger and gravecrawler. They take 5. Killing wave for 3. I pay 3 to keep in Blood Artist while I sacrifice Messenger and Gravecrawler. I drain them for 2 with blood artist. 7. Undying for Messenger, they take another 2 which is 9 damage total this turn. If they choose to keep say... a mirran crusader they take 3 more which brings the damage to 12. If they sacrificed 2 more creatures, I drain them for 2 more. So in essence they have taken 12 this turn and I gained one with a blood artist and a messenger in play as well as a gravecrawler sitting in the graveyard which is going to be played next turn. The next 8 life won't be so hard and if I had hit with a gravecrawler T1 they would be at 6. The Messenger came down the turn earlier so they would be sitting at 4. At this point, a Fume Spitter, Aristocrat, Metamorph, and a slew of other cards is lethal.
Had it been a Black Sun, I would not have a Blood Artist out which is something I think I like better. Anyways, Black Sun is correct in a number of situations which is why I'm thinking of -1 Killing Wave +1 Black Sun.
I really wanted a 3rd drop so I put Soulcage Fiend in. I put them in because it beats for 3 and if they decide to kill it, I'm fine because they lose another 3 life. It isn't Messenger 5-6 like I wish it could be but they get the job done more often than not.
Having 2 Blood Artist is not unreasonable considering the metamorphs. I wanted another drain effect so I put in one aristocrat but that may be up for discussion.
So thoughts?
Birthing Pod  goes very well with crawler+messenger.
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1 year ago ::
May 11, 2012 - 9:24AM
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- UnCon Prizewinner 2008
- …mmm
Date Joined:
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Birthing Pod goes very well with crawler+messenger.
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1 year ago ::
May 11, 2012 - 12:26PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2005
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Birthing Pod goes very well with crawler+messenger.
I do not feel like taking 4 life just to pod a crawler into an artist and then 2 life for each subsequent creature. I'm not going to unstablize the mana base to put in green either.
A few changes:
+2 Diregraf Ghoul
-1 Killing Wave
-1 Soulcage Fiend
I often found myself with 2 killing waves in my hand which is something I do not want. 1 per game is perfectly fine. Soulcage Fiend isn't performing as well as I had hoped and I will probably -1 more Soulcage Fiend for +1 Mortarpod soon.
I went +2 Ghouls which is what I should have been playing in the first place. This deck really wants to land a 1-drop so playing 12 of them should get you there consistently.
The 3x Aristocrats have just been all-stars. Every time I'm starting to sputter out, I just land the aristocrat and it helps you get there so easily.
Someone has suggested Phyrexian Obliterator to me. It would be alright in this deck. The thing is, Aristocrats already serve that spot for me. Getting in for 4 haste on turn 4 is super important. If I do decide to go Obliterator, it would be -1 Skinrender for it or I would put 2 in the SB. However, that really kills me in terms of $$$ as I really don't feel like laying down $40 for 2 cards in the Sideboard when there are other perfectly good choices out there for it.
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1 year ago ::
May 11, 2012 - 2:26PM
#8
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- UnCon Prizewinner 2008
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Date Joined:
Jan 20, 2008
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Have you tried out Altar's Reap?
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1 year ago ::
May 11, 2012 - 4:43PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2005
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Have you tried out Altar's Reap?
I meant to address this as well. I have not yet gotten to trying it out yet.
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1 year ago ::
May 11, 2012 - 6:31PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 18, 2003
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This deck is BRUTAL. I was testing my Naya Human Zoo deck out (insane power with a little luck), and this thing had me on the ropes hard. Makes me want to try it out myself.  Killing Wave: I agree it's probably best at 3; 4 definitely seems a bit much. Aristocrat: Love this thing, and in this deck?? Just nasty. The haste is fantastic, and I really think the evasion combined with a sac outlet puts this over Obliterator. Also, it's a Vamp, so if you run Cavern of Souls  , you're probably golden with Vampire or Zombie. Actually, that brings me to another idea: while I like the Spitters, if you changed them out for 4x Stromkirk Noble  and ran 4x Cavern/Blackcleave, you'd have a decent setup for 12 Turn 1 drops that can kill someone pretty quickly if not answered immediately. I'm not sure if it'd work out, but a suicide sac deck like this (Sui-Machine Head??) would, I assume, like all the fastest beats possible, yes? Also, yeah, prolly -1 Pox, -1 Slip, +2 Mortarpod or something. I dunno, I'd love to fit 2x Altar's Reap and 3x Brimstone Volley in here, but I think that's asking WAY too much. LOL! Maybe it's worth it to run Vexing Devil  ?? XD
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