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1 year ago  ::  May 07, 2012 - 11:41AM #1
Kratos12429
Date Joined: Jul 21, 2009
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If my opponent uses Unsummon on my Serra Angel and I cast Cloudshift in response, would Cloudshift keep Serra Angel exiled until after the stack is resolved or would she simply come back in and then be hit by Unsummon? 
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1 year ago  ::  May 07, 2012 - 11:46AM #2
cyphern
Date Joined: Jan 19, 2003
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When cloudshift resolves, the angel gets exiled and then immediately returned. However, any time any card changes zones, it becomes a new object with no relationship to its previous existence. So, when unsummon resolves, it will not be able to find the serra angel it targetted. There's a very similar-looking angel on the battlefield, but unsummon isn't targetting that angel. Unsummon will be countered and has no effect.
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1 year ago  ::  May 07, 2012 - 11:46AM #3
Novacat
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The Serra Angel will be exiled and then immediately return during Cloudshift 's resolution, but this will protect it from Unsummon . When an object changes zones, it becomes a brand new object, as far as the game is concerned. So Unsummon isn't targeting this "new" Serra Angel that has appeared on the battlefield. Its target no longer exists, so when it tries to resolve, it is countered and has no effect.
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1 year ago  ::  May 07, 2012 - 11:46AM #4
Bowshewicz
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She would come back before Unsummon resolved, but she'd be a shiny new Serra Angel , and Unsummon will have lost track of its target.

Unsummon will be countered, and your Serra Angel will stay on the battlefield.
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1 year ago  ::  May 07, 2012 - 12:14PM #5
LMTRK
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2009
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Note that if you replace Unsummon with Day of Judgment , Cloudshift would NOT save your Angel (well, it would stop that original Angel from being destroyed, but you would still lose an Angel that looks an awful lot like her when DoJ resolves).

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Jan 4, 2013 -- 5:20AM, LMTRK wrote:

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